Did I Sin Mortally (Don't Think so, but not SURE)?

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Hello brothers and sisters,

It is Good Friday. I have been meticulous about observing Friday Abstinence, this year,
and today, Good Friday, I also observed the Fasting as well. Even though we are allowed two “small” meals, I only had a Boost (for vitamins & calories), some coffee, and then a coca-cola for “lunch.” I begged the LORD last night to please not let me, in the hecticness of the day today, forget and eat meat.

So tonight, I get home, to macaroni and cheese and potato chips and
out of force of habit, with my mind on other things, I reached in to the
meat drawer, grabbed an Oscar Mayer “Cheese” hotdog, and bit into it.
I had swallowed half of it, and was on the last 1/2 of it, chewing,
when I suddenly realized OH NO!! IT’s GOOD FRIDAY, I can’t have THIS!!
and I spit out what was in my mouth into the trash can, and went to the sink and swished out my mouth and and and
…started praying.

I really don’t think I sinned at all, mortally or even venially, because as SOON as I remember that it was GOOD FRIDAY, I spit out what I had in my mouth
(( although I did not go so far as to induce vomiting to bring the first half of it back
…up, which I seriously, well half-seriously, wonder IF I should have done that…))

Does anyone here, well grounded in theology,
know if what I did was a sin at ALL, let alone a mortal sin??? I truly had every conscious intention of avoiding all meat today, I even kept the fasts, I just forgot, for about a minute and a half, what day it was…

Love,
Jaypeeto4
 
For mortal sin to exsist all 3 of these criteria must be met:
-it must be “grave matter”
-you must know it is grave matter
-you must willingly do it anyway

If any one of these is not present it is not a mortal sin.
 
Jaypeeto4 said:
Hello brothers and sisters,

It is Good Friday. I have been meticulous about observing Friday Abstinence, this year,
and today, Good Friday, I also observed the Fasting as well. Even though we are allowed two “small” meals, I only had a Boost (for vitamins & calories), some coffee, and then a coca-cola for “lunch.” I begged the LORD last night to please not let me, in the hecticness of the day today, forget and eat meat.

So tonight, I get home, to macaroni and cheese and potato chips and
out of force of habit, with my mind on other things, I reached in to the
meat drawer, grabbed an Oscar Mayer “Cheese” hotdog, and bit into it.
I had swallowed half of it, and was on the last 1/2 of it, chewing,
when I suddenly realized OH NO!! IT’s GOOD FRIDAY, I can’t have THIS!!
and I spit out what was in my mouth into the trash can, and went to the sink and swished out my mouth and and and
…started praying.

I really don’t think I sinned at all, mortally or even venially, because as SOON as I remember that it was GOOD FRIDAY, I spit out what I had in my mouth
(( although I did not go so far as to induce vomiting to bring the first half of it back
…up, which I seriously, well half-seriously, wonder IF I should have done that…))

Does anyone here, well grounded in theology,
know if what I did was a sin at ALL, let alone a mortal sin??? I truly had every conscious intention of avoiding all meat today, I even kept the fasts, I just forgot, for about a minute and a half, what day it was…

Love,
Jaypeeto4
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Ewwww! you ate [half] a cold hot dog? gross!
 
Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI
  1. When does one commit a mortal sin?
1855-1861
1874

One commits a mortal sin when there are simultaneously present: grave matter, full knowledge, and deliberate consent. This sin destroys charity in us, deprives us of sanctifying grace, and, if unrepented, leads us to the eternal death of hell. It can be forgiven in the ordinary way by means of the sacraments of Baptism and of Penance or Reconciliation.
  1. When does one commit a venial sin?
1862-1864
1875

One commits a venial sin, which is essentially different from a mortal sin, when the matter involved is less serious or, even if it is grave, when full knowledge or complete consent are absent. Venial sin does not break the covenant with God but it weakens charity and manifests a disordered affection for created goods. It impedes the progress of a soul in the exercise of the virtues and in the practice of moral good. It merits temporal punishment which purifies.

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html
 
Jaypeeto4 said:
Hello brothers and sisters,

It is Good Friday. I have been meticulous about observing Friday Abstinence, this year,
and today, Good Friday, I also observed the Fasting as well. Even though we are allowed two “small” meals, I only had a Boost (for vitamins & calories), some coffee, and then a coca-cola for “lunch.” I begged the LORD last night to please not let me, in the hecticness of the day today, forget and eat meat.

So tonight, I get home, to macaroni and cheese and potato chips and
out of force of habit, with my mind on other things, I reached in to the
meat drawer, grabbed an Oscar Mayer “Cheese” hotdog, and bit into it.
I had swallowed half of it, and was on the last 1/2 of it, chewing,
when I suddenly realized OH NO!! IT’s GOOD FRIDAY, I can’t have THIS!!
and I spit out what was in my mouth into the trash can, and went to the sink and swished out my mouth and and and
…started praying.

I really don’t think I sinned at all, mortally or even venially, because as SOON as I remember that it was GOOD FRIDAY, I spit out what I had in my mouth
(( although I did not go so far as to induce vomiting to bring the first half of it back
…up, which I seriously, well half-seriously, wonder IF I should have done that…))

Does anyone here, well grounded in theology,
know if what I did was a sin at ALL, let alone a mortal sin??? I truly had every conscious intention of avoiding all meat today, I even kept the fasts, I just forgot, for about a minute and a half, what day it was…

Love,
Jaypeeto4
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Your only sin is thinking that a cold hot dog is valid matter for eating.

:doh2:

Seriously, of course you aren’t in mortal sin! And no, causing yourself to vomit would not have been a virtue, but a cruelty to your body. You absent-mindedly ate a bit of meat. It’s not going to cost you your salvation.
 
Of course this is not a sin. Other posters have suggested you seek spiritual and/or psychological guidance for your scrupulosity. I hope you are following their recommendations.
 
I remember last year, something similar happening to me. Only instead of a hot dog, it was one piece of the ‘chicken’ that one gets in a can of Cambells chicken noodle soup trying to get my daughter to eat. I remember wondering the same thing and having to ask here. So thankful to have this forum!
 
**Of course this is not a sin. Other posters have suggested you seek spiritual and/or psychological guidance for your scrupulosity. I hope you are following their recommendations. **

Dear anp,
thanks for your comment.
While I appreciate it, I do want to say with all due respect to your suggestion,
that MY problem is
that,
for all too many years, even AFTER adult conversion and confirmation,
I was often, not scrupulous at all, but UNscrupulous.

The result of THAT,when one is finally fully repentant and striving,
is, of course, a measure of scrupulosity.

I have a priest/confessor, and he is aware of my problems.
I also have a psychiatrist/psychologist, who is aware of other problems,
which came to a head in a horrific breakdown in 1999, which has nothing to do with
the Faith.

kind regards.
Jaypeeto4
 
To anp and ther rest of you kind folks,

If we are going to encourage each other, or another Catholic or Christian,
to seek “psychological” counselling for scrupulosity (especially), then we should
make sure to explicitly recommend that they consult a CATHOLIC (orthodox catholic) or other CHRISTIAN psychologist.

Most psychologists today, not too surprisingly, are atheists/agnostics,
who openly condone even the deadliest mortal sins (( I have had them tell me that
such things are NOT WRONG )), and will tell us that our scrupulosity “problem” is best solved by our ceasing to believe in God and in any form of religion,
and then our so-called “Catholic Guilt” – as they call it – will go away.
 
Jaypeeto4 said:
**Of course this is not a sin. Other posters have suggested you seek spiritual and/or psychological guidance for your scrupulosity. I hope you are following their recommendations. **

Dear anp,
thanks for your comment.
While I appreciate it, I do want to say with all due respect to your suggestion,
that MY problem is
that,
for all too many years, even AFTER adult conversion and confirmation,
I was often, not scrupulous at all, but UNscrupulous.

The result of THAT,when one is finally fully repentant and striving,
is, of course, a measure of scrupulosity.

I have a priest/confessor, and he is aware of my problems.
I also have a psychiatrist/psychologist, who is aware of other problems,
which came to a head in a horrific breakdown in 1999, which has nothing to do with
the Faith.

kind regards.
Jaypeeto4
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I’m glad you have sought help.
Jaypeeto4 said:
To anp and ther rest of you kind folks,

If we are going to encourage each other, or another Catholic or Christian,
to seek “psychological” counselling for scrupulosity (especially), then we should
make sure to explicitly recommend that they consult a CATHOLIC (orthodox catholic) or other CHRISTIAN psychologist.

Most psychologists today, not too surprisingly, are atheists/agnostics,
who openly condone even the deadliest mortal sins (( I have had them tell me that
such things are NOT WRONG )), and will tell us that our scrupulosity “problem” is best solved by our ceasing to believe in God and in any form of religion,
and then our so-called “Catholic Guilt” – as they call it – will go away.
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Of course. I mistakenly thought that was implied.
 
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