"Did Pontius Pilate Exist?" An Article On the Archaelogical Evidence Discovered

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Cool.

Being a bit of a conspiracy theorist, I wonder how much other evidence is destroyed or hidden before we can find out about it!
Lucky we have the Vatican.
 
Thank you Lord for endowing us with the light of reason so that we may use it find the truth.
 
Precisely. We could find Noah’s Ark anytime we wanted. We probably have the ice penetrating radar images inside the Pentagon.
 
that is great
“Pontius Pilate” DID exist and also with the congruent evidence of the Shroud of Turin

little doubt thabout the the truth of the Triduum
 
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Until just under sixty years ago, almost all of what we knew about Pontius Pilate came from Gospel accounts in the New Testament,” besides some secular sources that were questioned by some.
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Really?
I thought Josephus and Philo are not questioned that much in terms of historicity of persons.
 
Something that bothers me is the fact that people act as though the Gospels are not historical. Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John ( and the apocryphal extracanonical New Testament Gospels) all speak of him. They all wrote separate in different areas and recounted what was told to them by the Apostles. It would not make sense for the Gospel writers to refer to Pontius Pilate if he never existed seeing as it would have been called out quite early by many people who were against Christian’s of the time. And that was many. People don’t think of that. I never understood why just because a book is scripture to people who are critics it means it all goes out the door. Actually the Maccabees books are studied extensively especially 1 and 2. Not so much 3 as it seems to be literary fiction or 4 which is more a discourse on reason in some of the events of martyrdom in 2 Maccabees. However they speak volumes of the inter period of Israel between the Old and New Testaments.
 
This is what bothers me about modern Biblical scholarship. The author says that there was little secular evidence to support Pilate’s existence until finding the inscription in 1961.

That is completely false. Both Flavius Josephus and Philo Judeus write about him in some detail. A bigger question why didn’t the authority who wrote the article know this?

A great source for details like this is John Hagan’s work in his two books looking at the NT and contemporary and near-contemporary secular references to early Christian times.
 
Cruciferi said:
We could find Noah’s Ark anytime we wanted.
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There are many physical reasons the flood story is basically impossible. If you are to believe the Biblical time line, we only have a couple thousand years to work with. The diversity of life we have is nearly impossible to generate in that time. Many fish would have died. Salt and fresh water fish can live in the wrong water. River and lake fish would have a hard time dealing with sea conditions. Aside form any arguments about the size of the boat, would they find species they’ve never heard of? How could one extended clan feed and clean up the waste of so many animals? How could they handle the diversity of food required? There are many others, but I’ll stop here. I do however completely believe the Pontius Pilate item, I actually heard of it years ago.
 
Seeing as every Mesopotamian culture has a flood story, it’s hard to argue there wasn’t a flood at all. I think it was just more localized
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
Seeing as every Mesopotamian culture has a flood story, it’s hard to argue there wasn’t a flood at all. I think it was just more localized
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I’ve heard that one and it is likely the only event that might have had any basis to me.
 
PJH_74 said:
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Cruciferi:
We could find Noah’s Ark anytime we wanted.
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There are many physical reasons the flood story is basically impossible. If you are to believe the Biblical time line, we only have a couple thousand years to work with. The diversity of life we have is nearly impossible to generate in that time. Many fish would have died. Salt and fresh water fish can live in the wrong water. River and lake fish would have a hard time dealing with sea conditions. Aside form any arguments about the size of the boat, would they find species they’ve never heard of? How could one extended clan feed and clean up the waste of so many animals? How could they handle the diversity of food required? There are many others, but I’ll stop here. I do however completely believe the Pontius Pilate item, I actually heard of it years ago.
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All of these problems are only problems if you exclude God’s involvement.

I’m not a literalist when it comes to Noah’s flood, but none of these things are problems if you incorporate God’s sovereignty. They found species because God lead the species there. The need to eat and defecate are both aspects of God’s creation which are fully within His capability to suspend. We have accounts of saints who lived for years on nothing but water and the Eucharist.

As for diversity of life, I agree, that’s probably the biggest reason I believe the flood to be more localized than global. However, all of the aspects which govern the development and spread of life are within God’s power, so that’s really not a problem either.

All of that said, given that almost every civilization in the world has an account of a great flood, I find it hard to discount the idea of a world-wide flood entirely.
 
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All of these problems are only problems if you exclude God’s involvement.
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There’s much more as I mentioned; radio carbon dating, dinosaurs, even the writings of cultures such as the Egyptians. I’m a person that takes the Bible as the writing of our experience with God. There is mystery enough in life and the universe that, whether our beliefs science based of faith based, we’ll ever really fully grasp its meaning and the way it works.
 
Yah I feel like the fact that almost every culture worldwide has a flood narrative even when the vast majority had no contact says something.
I remember in college reading the Epic of Gilgamesh and the professor acting like it would make me question my faith but it actually made it stronger.
 
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