Did someone sneak in a change to the Rosary?

[BfloPolska]

Maybe it’s the head injury I had just before the change from parochial to public school, I don’t know. In learning how to re-practice the Catholic faith I’d ben hitting some sites about how exactly to say a rosary and do it right, and I want to know who snuck the Fatima Prayer, the O My Jesus and Hail Holy Queen in there?! I swear on my mother’s dentures that I do not remember these prayers! When I was taught in the mid-70’s, we did a 1 Our Father-3 hail Mary-1 Our Father set after the Creed, then the Glory Be; then after each decade, an Our Father, period. I seem to remember somethng afterward that included the line “pour forth we beseech you O Lord your grace into our hearts,” but the entirety of this is also lost. Now I’m quite befuddled. Was I taught wrong, do I remember wrong, or were there some workings going on in Rome while I was away?

Blessed be,
Polska

 

[rayne89]

There are different options for the rosary

Some end with the Salve Regina (Hail, Holy Queen), prayers for the Holy Father, the Litany of Loreto (the “Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary”), and/or the prayer to St. Michael the Archangel.

**In October: **The Prayer to St. Joseph is often added as a concluding prayer, especially during the month of October (this was recommended by Pope Leo XIII).

**In November and Rosaries for the Dead: **The “Eternal Rest” prayer is often prayed in place of the Fatima Prayer during the month of November (especially after dusk on All Saints Day and on All Souls Day) and during Rosaries prayed for the dead, such as at Funeral Vigils.

fisheaters.com/rosary.html

 

[LilyM]

Maybe it’s the head injury I had just before the change from parochial to public school, I don’t know. In learning how to re-practice the Catholic faith I’d ben hitting some sites about how exactly to say a rosary and do it right, and I want to know who snuck the Fatima Prayer, the O My Jesus and Hail Holy Queen in there?! I swear on my mother’s dentures that I do not remember these prayers! When I was taught in the mid-70’s, we did a 1 Our Father-3 hail Mary-1 Our Father set after the Creed, then the Glory Be; then after each decade, an Our Father, period. I seem to remember somethng afterward that included the line “pour forth we beseech you O Lord your grace into our hearts,” but the entirety of this is also lost. Now I’m quite befuddled. Was I taught wrong, do I remember wrong, or were there some workings going on in Rome while I was away?

Blessed be,
Polska

Never EVER known the Rosary to be said without the Hail Holy Queen and the final prayer. The Fatima prayer is not required but has been around for 90 years now and is a usually-used prayer.

The prayer you’re thinking of is for the end of the Angelus, the one at the end of the Rosary goes :

'O God, whose only begotten Son, by His life, death, and resurrection, has purchased for us the rewards of eternal salvation. Grant, we beseech Thee, that while meditating on these mysteries of the most holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, that we may both imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through Christ our Lord. Amen. ’

And you may have the order wrong - each decade STARTS with an Our Father, then has the 10 Hail Marys and then a Glory Be and the Fatima prayer if desired. There isn’t an Our Father at the END of the decade. The final decade ends with a “Glory Be” and Fatima Prayer, then the Hail Holy Queen and the final prayer are said.

 

[blessedtoo]

Maybe it’s the head injury I had just before the change from parochial to public school, I don’t know. In learning how to re-practice the Catholic faith I’d ben hitting some sites about how exactly to say a rosary and do it right, and I want to know who snuck the Fatima Prayer, the O My Jesus and Hail Holy Queen in there?! I swear on my mother’s dentures that I do not remember these prayers! When I was taught in the mid-70’s, we did a 1 Our Father-3 hail Mary-1 Our Father set after the Creed, then the Glory Be; then after each decade, an Our Father, period. I seem to remember somethng afterward that included the line “pour forth we beseech you O Lord your grace into our hearts,” but the entirety of this is also lost. Now I’m quite befuddled. Was I taught wrong, do I remember wrong, or were there some workings going on in Rome while I was away?

Blessed be,
Polska

Ditto everything you said. Maybe it’s an east coast thing. I was taught in the late 60’s in New Jersey and my memory of the rosary is exactly as you have recounted here. I was quite shocked when I returned to the Church after 34 years and tried to say the rosary with a women’s group at Church.

 

[zagjames]

Depending on where you are in the world there are regional prefrerneces of what prayers constitute the Rosary. All have 1 OF + 10 HM formula, but in some areas other things are added.

The Rosary we use isnt the only kind. It is a Dominican Rosary, their are other kinds of Rosaries.

 

[water]

BfloPolska, I am glad that you are praying the Rosary. May I suggest you to read this book: “The Secret of the Rosary” written by Saint Louis De Montfort. It is an excellent book. He explained so well of each prayer and how we should meditate on it.

 

[Ramalama]

Threads like this make me smile. I love it when people pray the Rosary - regardless of how they pray it. God bless you all!

 

[Ilroy]

I hate to further your anxiety, but our late Holy Father, Pope John Paul II also added another set of mysteries to meditate on whilst praying the rosary…the Luminous Mysteries…basically reflecting on Christ’s 3 years before the Sorrowful Mysteries.

 

[bluerose]

Anyone ever heard the three Hail Marys prayed at the END of the rosary? When we attended the funeral of a friend’s mother in San Antonio (devout Mexican Catholic, BIG Mexican funeral, wake, rosary, etc.) we were surprised that they did not BEGIN the rosary with the Creed and the three Hail Marys, they ENDED it that way, along with a whole host of other prayers… everything was in Spanish, and my husband and son (who were the only two non-Hispanics in the crowd) were totally bewildered.

 

[Jacob21]

I myself have started to pray and think about the Rosary and its significance. I truely love it.
Jacob

 

[Mintaka]

Ending the Rosary with three Hail Marys is a very old option. It’s called “going out by the garden path”, and similar things. (The “garden path” being the lead-in beads. Rosary/rosarium means “rose garden”.)

The Hail Holy Queen and other prayers at the end seem to have been initially associated with praying the Rosary liturgically, especially since they are similar to some Liturgy of the Hours prayers. You also get some people praying “Lord open my lips” and such from the Hours before the Rosary.

A lot of those Mexican prayers are more like European Rosary practices. You can pretty easily find Rosary sites with the Mexican Rosary practices listed. Once you see the translations of the prayers, they’ll look very familiar.

 

[Quaere_Verum]

Remember that the Rosary is a personal devotion, and, in so being additional prayers and litanies at the end are acceptable when done with reverance and with the intent to meditate on the Incarnation and glorify God.

You may also hear people including the following:

1. Memorare
2. Hail Mary between decades for the souls in purgatory
3. Bible vs. reflection for each Hail Mary
4. Litany to Our Blessed Mother @ the end
5. Litany to the Saints @ the end
6. Etc., etc., etc.

Our family enjoys the basic Rosary as you mentioned but including the Fatima prayer as well.

 

[puzzleannie]

Anyone ever heard the three Hail Marys prayed at the END of the rosary? When we attended the funeral of a friend’s mother in San Antonio (devout Mexican Catholic, BIG Mexican funeral, wake, rosary, etc.) we were surprised that they did not BEGIN the rosary with the Creed and the three Hail Marys, they ENDED it that way, along with a whole host of other prayers… everything was in Spanish, and my husband and son (who were the only two non-Hispanics in the crowd) were totally bewildered.

yes in different countries customary way of saying the rosary also differs. if you attend a Mexican wake service with rosary you will also probably pray the Litany of Loreto. there is also another invocation at the end of each decade which I will post if I can find it.

if you pray with Filipinos you will hear the text of the prayers differes somewhat, as do the prayers before and after the decades. almost every funeral home or church down here that expects both English and Spanish visitors provides pamphlets that are bilingual for rosary and other prayers as well as bilingual misalettes in churches.

it is a big Church, folks, lots of people, lots of customs, and it is a private devotion

many popular customs regarding the rosary esp. among Hispanics arose because the prayer was so often recited in processions, and the “before and after” related to what was happening as the procession began and ended. if you go to Lourdes you will see what I mean

 

[Phemie]

Maybe it’s the head injury I had just before the change from parochial to public school, I don’t know. In learning how to re-practice the Catholic faith I’d ben hitting some sites about how exactly to say a rosary and do it right, and I want to know who snuck the Fatima Prayer, the O My Jesus and Hail Holy Queen in there?! I swear on my mother’s dentures that I do not remember these prayers! When I was taught in the mid-70’s, we did a 1 Our Father-3 hail Mary-1 Our Father set after the Creed, then the Glory Be; then after each decade, an Our Father, period. I seem to remember somethng afterward that included the line “pour forth we beseech you O Lord your grace into our hearts,” but the entirety of this is also lost. Now I’m quite befuddled. Was I taught wrong, do I remember wrong, or were there some workings going on in Rome while I was away?

Blessed be,
Polska

I’m with you. The Rosary of my childhood consisted of the Creed, the Hail Mary, Our Father & Glory Be. That’s it.

 

[lemonlime]

BfloPolska, I am glad that you are praying the Rosary. May I suggest you to read this book: “The Secret of the Rosary” written by Saint Louis De Montfort. It is an excellent book. He explained so well of each prayer and how we should meditate on it.

I’m sorry if this deviates too far from the main topic of discussion, but I agree wholeheartedly with this recommendation. I’m relatively new to the rosary, and until I read de Montfort’s book, I didn’t really see the point of the devotion. “The Secret of the Rosary” has really helped me to understand the life of Jesus and the Gospels’ message. As the author says in the White Rose (first) chapter:

It is not just a conglomeration of Our Fathers and Hail Marys, but on the contrary it is a divine summary of the mysteries of the life, passion, death and glory of Jesus and Mary.

It’s less than 150 pages, very straightforward, and it helped me see the value of the rosary and want to pray it. Because of this book, the rosary is now a part of my daily routine.

Anyway, it helped me, and others might find it valuable too.

 

[water]

It’s less than 150 pages, very straightforward, and it helped me see the value of the rosary and want to pray it. Because of this book, the rosary is now a part of my daily routine.

I am so happy to hear that the book has helped you too. To be exact, the book is very small …around 1/4 of a regular paper. Therefore, 150-page book is not that long.

God bless.