Did the angels have any commandments?

[clarkgamble1]

Were the angels given the equivalent of the human’s 10 commandments? If not they would not have a clue which of their actions would offend God. Without a NO-NO list their questioning God’s actions would seem perfectly normal for beings with a thinking mind and free will.

 

[CapitalistCatholic]

Angels aren’t quite like human. They’re pure intellect and will, therefore they know all possible outcomes of each of their actions. They don’t need a Ten Commandments.

 

[TK421]

They already know the 10 commandment. They don’t exist in time so they already have a full understanding of good and evil.

Human beings are ignorant and learn about God through a progression of experiences. Humans possess the knowledge of good and evil but it is not a complete knowledge.

 

[joseie]

I think the angels are simple innocent things without any intelligence of its own but always act according to the orders it receives either from God or from Satan who was responsible for snatching away from God’s command one third of these innocent creatures into his fold for doing evil things…

 

[Mary888]

I think the angels are simple innocent things without any intelligence of its own but always act according to the orders it receives either from God or from Satan who was responsible for snatching away from God’s command one third of these innocent creatures into his fold for doing evil things…

How about Satan? Is he innocent too? And he’'s also an angel even if fallen.
I don’t know where you got this proportion of one third lost angels, Church tradition teaches that there were 9 heavenly armies and the second one fell (lead by Satan) this leaves out 8 heavenly armies who have not fallen.

 

[joseie]

Church traditionally consider that one third of the original angles came into Satan’s fold based on Rev.12:3&4

3	And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems:
4	And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son.

 

[Mary888]

Church traditionally consider that one third of the original angles came into Satan’s fold based on Rev.12:3&4

3	And there was seen another sign in heaven: and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads, and ten horns: and on his head seven diadems:
4	And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to be delivered; that, when she should be delivered, he might devour her son.

May you send me a quote where in the Catechism or Holy Church Fathers’s writings this part of Revelations is interpreted as one third of fallen angels?

 

[joseie]

“How about Satan? Is he innocent too? And he’'s also an angel even if fallen”

Satan is not a fallen angel.He was so in the beginning itself.
John 8:44
“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof”

 

[Mary888]

“How about Satan? Is he innocent too? And he’'s also an angel even if fallen”

Satan is not a fallen angel.He was so in the beginning itself.
John 8:44
“You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof”

But how about Luke 10 - 18? Jesus says the devil is fallen "I saw Satan fall like lightning from Heaven.

 

[joseie]

It is ok.He was thrown from heaven.Rev.12:9 clearly say so…

“And that great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, who seduceth the whole world; and he was cast unto the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.” - Revelation 12:9 -

 

[thistle]

I think the angels are simple innocent things without any intelligence of its own but always act according to the orders it receives either from God or from Satan who was responsible for snatching away from God’s command one third of these innocent creatures into his fold for doing evil things…

Not correct. Angels have superior intelligence to humans.

 

[joseie]

Any instances where they acted with any intelligence(forget about superior intelligence than humans !) other merely acting /conveying something as per orders received?

 

[thistle]

Any instances where they acted with any intelligence(forget about superior intelligence than humans !) other merely acting /conveying something as per orders received?

Why would I have such an instance?

By the way it is the Church that teaches they are intelligent.

CCC 330 As purely spiritual creatures angels have intelligence and will: they are personal and immortal creatures, surpassing in perfection all visible creatures, as the splendour of their glory bears witness.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

I don’t know about the armies but Revelation talks about the third of the stars that fall and that refers to the angels.

 

[clarkgamble1]

Angels aren’t quite like human. They’re pure intellect and will, therefore they know all possible outcomes of each of their actions. They don’t need a Ten Commandments.

That implies they know everything that pleases and displeases God. That is impossible. “Pure intellect and will” is a very vague statement that does not guarantee knowledge outcome of each of their actions. I’m not even sure what pure intellect and will means??

 

[Thrstypirate]

I think the angels are simple innocent things without any intelligence of its own

That’s not true. Angels have a far greater intelligence than any human. They are kind of like the spiritual equivalent of the scene in the Matrix where Neo can download information about a subject.

If you say “Kung Fu” to an angel, they will know Kung Fu, it’s history, and every facet about it.

 

[Shasta-Rose]

The way I heard it was that almost a third of the angels followed Satan, and almost two-thirds of them stayed with God. But there were some who couldn’t decide whom to follow, and they were very unpopular with both factions. For their indecision, they were stripped of their ethereal beauty and thrown down to earth and sentenced to live in exile there until the second coming of the Christ. And, of course, those are the leprechauns.