Did the COuncil of Trent condemn Augustine?

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Some Calvinist told me that the Council of Trent condemned Augustine. I find this hard to believe, do you know if this is true and can you point me to documents that state this is a fallacy if it is not true.

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Kaily said:
Some Calvinist told me that the Council of Trent condemned Augustine.
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The burden of proof is on him. I either expect no response, or some badly misquoted or otherwise out of context response.
 
Ok, she said that his writings were condmned at the council of trent because he taught faith alone according to her.

Here is what she said:

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CANON IX.—If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.

Augustine… Read More—The righteousness of the Law, namely, that he who has fulfilled it shall live in it, is set forth for this reason that when any one has recognized his infirmity he may attain and work the same and live in it, conciliating the Justifier not by his own strength nor by the letter of the Law itself (which cannot be done), but by faith. Except in a justified man, there is no right work wherein he who does it may live. But justification is obtained by faith."
when I said they condemned Augustine I meant His writings…and you can do a search for which of Augustine’s writings were condemned by the Council of Trent cuz it was a pretty big thing when it happened. and Catholic church was saying that it’s not faith alone…Augustine said it IS faith alone. and hence the start of the Reformation not too long after that."
 
To the extent that one interprets Augustine as saying one is saved by faith alone, then I suppose the Council of Trent would be condemning that point of view; however, from what I have read by Luther and Calvin, they took some liberties with Augustine’s writings.

Second, Augustine was not a pope nor did he teach infallibly. He had his opinions which nearly all seem to be very much in line with Catholic teaching. It’s interesting how many Protestant groups reject St. Thomas Aquinas who leaned heavily on Augustin in many of his own writings.
 
Kaily said:
Here is what she said:

"CANON IX.—If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema.

Augustine… Read More—The righteousness of the Law, namely, that he who has fulfilled it shall live in it, is set forth for this reason that when any one has recognized his infirmity he may attain and work the same and live in it, conciliating the Justifier not by his own strength nor by the letter of the Law itself (which cannot be done), but by faith. Except in a justified man, there is no right work wherein he who does it may live. But justification is obtained by faith."
when I said they condemned Augustine I meant His writings…and you can do a search for which of Augustine’s writings were condemned by the Council of Trent cuz it was a pretty big thing when it happened. and Catholic church was saying that it’s not faith alone…Augustine said it IS faith alone. and hence the start of the Reformation not too long after that."
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What’s anathematized is an understanding of “justified by faith alone” that excludes the disposition or preparation for justification. This preparation is mentioned in chapters V,VI, VII of the Decree on Justification.

St. Augustine’s quote above is not condemned by Trent — not only does St. Augustine’s quote not exclude this preparation for justification, it doesn’t even have the term “faith alone”.
 
In addition to what was said above: condemning one sentence in a work by St. Augustine is not the same as condemning St. Augustine.
 
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What’s anathematized is an understanding of “justified by faith alone” that excludes the disposition or preparation for justification. This preparation is mentioned in chapters V,VI, VII of the Decree on Justification.

St. Augustine’s quote above is not condemned by Trent — not only does St. Augustine’s quote not exclude this preparation for justification, it doesn’t even have the term “faith alone”.
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That’s what I said to her. She is still insisting that a council condmned Augustine’s writings.
 
Kaily said:
Some Calvinist told me that the Council of Trent condemned Augustine. I find this hard to believe, do you know if this is true and can you point me to documents that state this is a fallacy if it is not true.

Thanks
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I’m unaware of any condemnations of Augustine. He is considered a Doctor of the Church. I do know that Catholics are forbidden to believe in double predestination the way Paul, Augustine, and Aquinas did. Which is why they have problems explaining a lot of things.

However, the predestination theology that is attributed to John Calvin isn’t his at all. St. Paul taught it in the NT. St. Augustine elaborated on it. St. Thomas Aquinas touched on it as well. Luther greatly expounded on in in the Bondage of the Will, Calvin actually just brushed by it in the Institutes of the Christian Religion. It was later that a summary of predestination theology from Calvin’s institutes came along that forever linked Calvin’s name to this very old and original christian teaching. The summary is what people call TULIP or the five points of Calvinism. It was summarized to help argue it against the Arminians.
 
Now she says this:

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you should really read up on controversies that began in 1545. synergism was accepted at the Council of Trent. Funny you should mention the Council of Orange because I live in the city (Orange City) that got its name from William of Orange because of the proceedings that happened at that Council. I want you to know that I am not speaking in … Read Moreignorance. I have studied all the church history and councils at college and on my own and am only speaking of historical data that you can look up in the history of church councils. I would also friendly caution you on where you get your sources, especially from blogspots."

Regarding augustine:
"All I claimed is that his teachings especially on the doctrine of justification and on synergism went against the Catholic church’s teaching concerning those matters.
 
Kaily said:
Now she says this:

"synergism was accepted at the Council of Trent.
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Ask her to substantiate her assertion.
Kaily said:
Regarding augustine:
"All I claimed is that his teachings especially on the doctrine of justification and on synergism went against the Catholic church’s teaching concerning those matters.
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And now she needs to provide evidence of her claim.
 
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