Dilemma - Brother-In-Law wants to move in with us

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My In-laws bought my brother-in-law a business when he was in his 20s in California. He worked this business under the direction of my father in law for 25 years until it failed when the economy failed. My father-in-law died trying to bring that business back up to provide an income to my brother-in-law.

My mother-in-law convinced her son to move to Texas where we live to get on his feet.

He lived the first year with her in an apartment and she paid his way. He only had his clothes and truck to his name.
He met his girlfriend and she let him stay with her the past two years.

During that time, my mother-in-law has moved in with us, my wife and two teen boys.

My brother-in-law has been living with his girlfriend without even attempting to apply for a job once since he moved here. My mother-in-law has been giving him money to pay for expenses but she is on a fixed income after my father-in-law passed.

My brother-in-law was told by his girlfriend months ago she was going to evict him if he did not get a job. He did not take her serious until August then he asked us if he can move in temporarily. We told him he had to get a job and it would only be for two months. He agreed.

He never got a job and continued to live with his girlfriend, while receiving money from my mother-in-law, until she had enough and kicked him out.

He is now at our doorstep asking for us to let him stay.

He has been taken care of by his parents his entire life. He has never held down a real job except for the military when he got out of high school. He has always taken from people and never really given. He is a great guy and a pleasure to be around. He is a nice guy but always has an excuse for why he does not get a job.

My wife is on disability and half of my income is gone because she cannot work. I am already supporting my mother-in-law in addition to my wife and boys. If we let him in he will sit on my sofa and do nothing. That is his pattern.

I am going to tell him he cannot stay until he gets a full-time job. This will mean he will be homeless until that time. My wife has agreed to go with any decision I make. I think he will never land on his feet if he is always take care of by others. This is not a matter of helping, I believe I would be an enabler, like my in-laws, if I let him in my home.

I prayed on this and I am the type of person who normally would say, “Sure stay with us” even though I may not like it.

Am I being too harsh?
 
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NO!..

This idiotic forum won’t let me post the single word above, so I included this sentence.
 
You need to set better boundaries. You’re already over extended caring for your MIL. Do not let this man stay in your home.

Print out a map, list of shelters and give him money for a bus ticket to get there.
 
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Sounds like the whole family is set in patterns that aren’t working for you: some in giving, some in receiving. I recommend an excellent book called The Millionaire Next Door by Stanley & Danko. The statistics are out of date, but the text is timeless. Both the givers and the receivers should take a look. It will suggest how to break those habits and make choices that will work better for everyone.

I know the title makes it sound like it’s only about rich people. It’s actually about the good habits people develop that make them rich, and the bad habits people develop that stop them from getting by. There are at least three stories in there about people who drained their families, and how the families taught them to do it having mistaken it for love and duty.
 
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He has been taken care of by his parents his entire life. He has never held down a real job except for the military when he got out of high school.
Was he honorably discharged? He should be able to get a lot of help if he’s a veteran in good standing. Did he see combat? Could there be any PTSD or mental illness? Answering these questions should provide a path moving forward. Nevertheless, he cannot stay with you. People have been enabling him for far too long.
 
He was honorably discharged a month prior to Desert Shield/Storm and was not deployed. He has never seen combat.
 
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He was honorably discharged a month prior to Desert Shield/Storm and was not deployed. He has never seen combat.
Desert Storm was in 91. It’s been 26 years since he’s had a job? 🤨
 
I would say “Katy, bar the door!” He is not likely to change ounce he gets his foot in the door. If your wife agrees with you, stand firm. If he would not change for his girl friend he will not change for you. Peace.
 
That’s an added factor I hadn’t considered. He can’t be the only person who went from school into the military with no plans about how to survive thereafter. The veterans administration might have some life skills training.

Also, it’s one of those unfair things that it’s harder to get a job without a job. A temp agency might be able to start him on something super-basic, assuming he shows the discipline to show up and work at the offers.
 
e had enough and kicked him out.

He is now at our doorstep asking for us to let him stay.

He has been taken care of by his parents his entire life. He has never held down a real job except for the military when he got out of high school. He has always taken from people and never really given. He is a great guy and a pleasure to be around. He is a nice guy but always has an excuse for why he does not get a job.

My wife is on disability and half of my income is gone because she cannot work. I am already supporting my mother-in-law in addition to my wife and boys. If we let him in he will sit on my sofa and do nothing. That is his pattern.

I am going to tell him he cannot stay until he gets a full-time job. This will mean he will be homeless until that time. My wife has agreed to go with any decision I make. I think he will never land on his feet if he is always take care of by others. This is not a matter of helping, I believe I would be an enabler, like my in-laws, if I let him in my home.

I prayed on this and I am the type of person who normally would say, “Sure stay with us” even though I may not like it.

Am I being too harsh?
@Texas

This needs to be moved out of casual discussion.
 
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He was honorably discharged a month prior to Desert Shield/Storm and was not deployed. He has never seen combat.
Desert Storm was in 91. It’s been 26 years since he’s had a job? 🤨
No, he owned a business my in-laws bought him.
 
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I don’t think you’re being too harsh at all. Your money will only stretch so far, and you’re already helping your mother-in-law. Your first responsibility (as you already recognize) is to your wife and children. He obviously needs a wake-up call.
Perhaps you or your wife could point him to some job-training assistance. There may also be a local shelter that would take him in until he can save up for his own place; my brother-in-law had to do that, once (although in his case, it wasn’t entirely his fault).
 
@Texas: by “moved” they meant that it should be moved out of Casual Conversation board and moved to Family Life board. Now it’s there.

Seriously, though, the family business sounds like something out of a useful book. It’s about “teaching your children to fish.” The in-laws intended well, but it didn’t teach him to fish and it just didn’t work out.

Your brother-in-law could live another fifty years. He needs a sense of hope as much as he needs a job.
 
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Am I being too harsh?
No. You are being generous in making an offer he can stay at all. I would not. What if he gets a job only to quit it or get fired? You need to talk to a lawyer, what if you let him live there and he is then considered a “tenant” by the law and gets rights to prevent eviction if he gets fired or quits? Frankly, I see a lot of risk for you and problems.

Nope, he would not live with me under the circumstances and history you describe. And trust me, I have a troubled (step) brother who has been bailed out by parents our whole lives. If he showed up, I’d give him the number to county social services. At least your BIL is a nice person, my brother is a crazy person. So, under no circumstances would he be allowed to live here.
 
As someone with multiple deadbeat brothers, I say: Do not let this guy in your door. It’s really hard to get rid of family that has moved in. You won’t be helping him, but putting off his path to self sufficiency.
 
I am going to tell him he cannot stay until he gets a full-time job. This will mean he will be homeless until that time.
I don’t necessarily disagree with anything anyone has said above, and it does sound like someone has to take a hard line with this guy, but it’s worth considering that it’s next to impossible to find and keep a job for someone who is homeless.
 
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