Divine mercy and Luisa Piccaretta

[SheepsCousin]

I have 2 things that are really bugging me and I’d like to hear what people think.

First of all the o blood and water prayer has a promise in St Faustina’s diary that if you say it with trust in divine mercy and contrition it will save a soul. This seems too good to be true and unrealistic. How come there haven’t been mass conversions if that were the case?

Secondly in Servant of God Luisa Picaretta’s writings I have heard (I don’t actually know how true this is, I’m not sure if anyone knows about the authenticity of this claim) that it says whoever reads so and so passage about the crucifixion every word you read a soul will be converted.
Now this just presents a couple of problems to me:
-It would be really easy to keep reading it over and over and like have millions of conversions happen becasue of you which is ludicrous
-It seems unfair to saints or ant people who have offered up great sufferings and prayer that someone simply reading something would initiate lots of conversions.

Thanks and God bless!

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

It’s a private revelation and we are not required to believe it.

 

[SheepsCousin]

It’s a private revelation and we are not required to believe it

I am aware of this, however it would seem a bit odd if a servant of God or especially a Saint were to have untrue writings, and also I’m curious of people’s thoughts

 

[Vico]

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Saint Faustina Diary

“ If you say this prayer, with a contrite heart and with faith, on behalf of some sinner I will give that soul the grace of conversion”.

The actual grace of conversion can be refused by a person, even though given.

Luisa Picaretta’s writings have not been approved yet.

 

[puer.dei]

it would seem a bit odd if a servant of God or especially a Saint were to have untrue writings,

Even saints can be mistaken, or misinterpret something they’re told. They are human, after all.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

Luisa Piccaretta’s writings are unapproved private revelations. The terms of service of the forum prohibits us from discussing unapproved private revelations here, so we can’t talk about that.

Also, Servants of God are at the beginning stage of possible sainthood, where their writings are still being evaluated by the Church, as is their life in general. There are many Servants of God whose causes do not advance because some flaw is found in their lives or their writings. That doesn’t necessarily mean they weren’t good Catholics, it simply means their lives and writings didn’t meet the high standard needed for public veneration as a Saint of the Church.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

First of all the o blood and water prayer has a promise in St Faustina’s diary that if you say it with trust in divine mercy and contrition it will save a soul. This seems too good to be true and unrealistic. How come there haven’t been mass conversions if that were the case?

Souls have needed saving all through history, and prayers can be applied anywhere in time by God. You seem to think the prayers are all being applied here and now when actually God could use your prayer to save some pagan from Abraham’s time, or any other person who ever existed. I’m pretty sure we’re talking about A Very Large Number of Souls Estimated Conservatively at 107 Billion, likely far outweighing the number of prayers. In addition to which, we have no way of knowing if our prayer met the standard of trust and contrition required by God. We do our best and have hope that it helps a soul.

 

[SheepsCousin]

Thanks, helpful answer (although it’s around 100 billion people who have existed), awesome profile pic as well

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I corrected my post although it’s possible God has souls in other universes too, we just don’t know

 

[Dan_Defender]

First of all the o blood and water prayer has a promise in St Faustina’s diary that if you say it with trust in divine mercy and contrition it will save a soul.

And Jesus says in the gospels that whatever we ask in prayer, we will receive, if we have faith. You have a problem with that statement too? IMO you are underestimating true faith and trust in God. It is what makes saints great, they were/are able to get such gifts that the rest of us do not. Few have what it takes. That fact is humbling.

 

[Julee]

My husband and I prayed the Divine Mercy Chaplet for my father-in-law beginning a few days before he died. He was never baptized and a nonbeliever his entire 88 years. We were worried about his soul and I was inspired to ask our priest about emergency baptism, just in case. We continued to pray the chaplet, both at home and his bedside. For some reason, my brother-in-law took him to ER for hydration which gave him the energy to have one last conversation with my husband that night. To our surprise and happiness, he said he wanted to be baptized Catholic, so my husband did an emergency baptism. A priest came the next day and he died shortly thereafter. I believe the promises.