Divine Mercy Sunday

[dang71]

According to this website:

Divine Mercy Sunday

The Catholic Church has been celebrating this feast ever since the Vatican had made it official on April 30th in the Jubilee year 2000.

wouldn’t this mean that traditionalists don’t celebrate the feast of Divine Mercy Sunday?

how do traditionalists square this with Jesus’ request to institute/celebrate this feast?

expanding upon this thought, how can traditionalists be a part of any future changes instituted by the Vatican, or by God Himself for that matter, if traditionalists only stick with the missal of 1962?

 

[HOPEFUL_IN_UK]

That’s a very good question, and one that I was wondering, myself.

Have you thought of asking Father Z? He gets a lot of emails and doesn’t answer everything, but it’s worth trying.

Here’s his blog:

wdtprs.com/blog/

 

[UnusMilitum]

The 1962 missal has a different callendar. The sunday after easter is still “Low” sunday at the TLM.

how do traditionalists square this with Jesus’ request to institute/celebrate this feast?

JPII instituted the feast. Although a great source of grace, it is not necessary to have a devotion to the Divine Mercy or to celebrate the feast at Mass in order to get to heaven.

expanding upon this thought, how can traditionalists be a part of any future changes instituted by the Vatican, or by God Himself for that matter, if traditionalists only stick with the missal of 1962?

The Vatican may change feast days around but there are two forms of the Roman Rite (OF and EF) and the EF uses the 1962 missal/callendar. I wasn’t aware that there had been any changes to this, which is kind of the main point. Any changes instituted by the Vatican on the propers for a certain feast day probably mainly effect the OF, since the EF callendar is an older callendar. I don’t see why it couldn’t change, but then it wouldn’t be the '62 anymore, it’d be the '09 or whatever.

As to the other part of your statement “…changes instituted …] by God Himself…” What changes are you talking about? There are no dogmatic changes, only changes in the liturgy which are instituted by men. There are lots of Catholic groups that use a lot of different callendars that are the products of men.

You asked how trads can be part of any future changes if they “only stick with the missal of 1962?”. So what? It’s not as though there’s any dogma missing. The differences are only in the externals.

 

[dang71]

i am not trying to question the validity or availability of the EF, i do believe it should be available (when reasonable) to any one who chooses to participate in it. i am just curious if people have thought of this.

JPII instituted the feast. Although a great source of grace, it is not necessary to have a devotion to the Divine Mercy or to celebrate the feast at Mass in order to get to heaven.

agreed, but why intentionally limit yourself?

The Vatican may change feast days around …

As to the other part of your statement “…changes instituted …] by God Himself…” What changes are you talking about? There are no dogmatic changes, only changes in the liturgy which are instituted by men.

it is true there are no dogmatic changes, but didn’t Jesus Himself request the feast of the Divine Mercy to be instituted? that is not the same as the Vatican changing the day of a feast.

is there a move afoot to update the 1962 calendar?

 

[cam100]

According to this website:

Divine Mercy Sunday

wouldn’t this mean that traditionalists don’t celebrate the feast of Divine Mercy Sunday?

how do traditionalists square this with Jesus’ request to institute/celebrate this feast?

expanding upon this thought, how can traditionalists be a part of any future changes instituted by the Vatican, or by God Himself for that matter, if traditionalists only stick with the missal of 1962?

At the traditional church that I attend, staffed by priests from the FSSP, the mass that Sunday was the Low Sunday mass from the 1962 missal, but devotions were held in the church later in the day to celebrate Divine Mercy Sunday.

 

[PKinsale]

One of my pet peeves has been the fact that Catholics have no unified liturgical calendar. This past Sunday was Good Shepherd Sunday, for instance, on the old calendar, but for some reason the Vatican II changes moved it to next Sunday. Rumors are, it will be cleared up someday, but that will be a while.

 

[UnusMilitum]

agreed, but why intentionally limit yourself?

I don’t understand what you mean. Nobody’s limiting themselves. There are only 52 Sundays in a year, 365 total days…We are already limited in this regard…We are unable to honor every canonized saint just due to the fact that the numbers of days in a year is limited.

If you mean that we’re limited by not adopting every feast that comes along…I might remind you that I could claim that the OF is “limited” because they threw out a bunch of feasts when they started the Novus Ordo. It’s just a matter of perspective. It’s not as though trads can’t have a devotion to apparitions or private revelations that don’t necessarily appear in their liturgical callendar. I am devoted to several saints that aren’t honored in the liturgy (new or old).

it is true there are no dogmatic changes, but didn’t Jesus Himself request the feast of the Divine Mercy to be instituted? that is not the same as the Vatican changing the day of a feast.

I don’t know if He Himself requested the institution of the feast, but whether He did or not the feast *was * instituted, just like lots of others that have been instituted based off of private revelations (such as my favorite, the Feast of the Sacred Heart). What’s the problem?

is there a move afoot to update the 1962 calendar?

I hope not! They have the OF to tinker with, just leave my EF in peace!

 

[PKinsale]

Just remember … the EF has changed over time, too. Right now, it’s stuck in 1962.

We change the OF Calendar to add new saints and have to find creative ways to squeeze them into the EF.

Is it not possible to reform the EF liturgical calendar (to add new saints, especially) while leaving the Ordinary of the EF alone? Someday soon a lot of trads in the U.S. and England will want a TLM in honor of Blessed John Newman.

And just because Low Sunday is also Divine Mercy Sunday does not mean it has to be reflected in the EF Mass. Most EF parishes, as noted, have Divne Mercy events outside of Mass.