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I’m in the process of divorce and it is not yet finalized. I met a woman recently and we have been spending a lot of time together and totally enjoy each others company. She is no longer a practicing Catholic but was raised in the church. I have been praying constantly on this. Everything I have gotten back points to continuing the relationship with this new woman despite my divorce not being finalized. I guess my question is, why would God give me signs to continue with something that is obviously adultery? This seems to be exactly what is happening.
 
What makes you think such signs come from God? God would never tell you to sin by committing adultery.

The Bible tells us Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). Who do you think would be giving you signs that you should sin: God or Satan?
 
Everything I have gotten back points to continuing the relationship with this new woman despite my divorce not being finalized.
Let me be blunt: You are fooling only **yourself **with this statement.

You are a married man. You would appear to be a man of faith, if your praying constantly statement indicates other areas of your spiritual life. She is a lapsed Catholic with no problem dating a married man.

Um, no, this is not from God.
I guess my question is, why would God give me signs to continue with something that is obviously adultery? This seems to be exactly what is happening.
God is not giving you signs to commit adultery. You are interpreting things this way because you *want *them to be this way. Our minds have great power to rationalize the things we desire.

Discernment should be taken under the direction of your pastor if you believe that God would call you into a relationship that leads you away from Him and His commandments.
 
Why would this woman come into my life and help me heal and recover from the years of soul crushing emotional and physical abuse I’m getting away from? I don’t understand how something that is adultery can provide such positive things like learning to love myself again, and strengthening my previously declining faith.
 
Why would this woman come into my life and help me heal and recover from the years of soul crushing emotional and physical abuse I’m getting away from? I don’t understand how something that is adultery can provide such positive things like learning to love myself again, and strengthening my previously declining faith.
Sin always disguises itself as something good.

It is your love for God that should take priority. As Jesus said, “You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your being, with all your strength, and with all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself.” (Luke 10:27) You may be loving your neighbor as yourself, but, if you are breaking God’s commandment, are you loving Him the way you should?

It sounds to me like you are trying very hard to justify a relationship you already know, deep down in your heart, is wrong.
 
This is an example of a time when we a Christian is called to be counter-cultural. The culture will tell you “if it feels good, do it.” And I have encountered more than one person who is Christian but in a situation like yours where they feel that it must be God calling them to leave the Catholic Church, or to pursue a relationship that is not licit according to Church teachings. The point is, feelings are not facts, and wishful thinking can indeed be a tool by which the devil seduces us.

I understand how tough this is to take in. But it’s really important to let your head rule and not your heart or your sexual desires. Even the fact that the interactions with this person may seem to have positive effects in the here and now is not reason enough to override the basic truths of right and wrong. Besides, are you even sure these feelings and consolations are something lasting and not the common feelings people experience in those heady times of a new infatuation? Those confiding conversations where emotions are running high? Such things can actually release feel-good chemicals in our brains that do seem to “confirm” or validate a course of action because they are so strong.

But again, where is the truth about the morality of what you’re being tempted to pursue? It’s imperative that you undertake an honest, courageous search for that, and that when you find it you follow it - for your long term spiritual good and also the spiritual good of this new person you’ve met. Marriage’s goal is for the spouses to help each other get to Heaven. Is this relationship you desire going to help you and the lady to get to Heaven, or will it ultimately hinder you?

This morning in my prayers I was praying to St. Joseph. I’m female, by the way, but I was reflecting on the young men I see who really need that model of true and chaste masculinity and strength that Joseph can provide. I suggest you take your dilemma to him and ask for his intercession. I don’t think you can go wrong that way. I’ll pray for you, too. God bless! 🙂
 
I’m in the process of divorce and it is not yet finalized. I met a woman recently and we have been spending a lot of time together and totally enjoy each others company. She is no longer a practicing Catholic but was raised in the church. I have been praying constantly on this. Everything I have gotten back points to continuing the relationship with this new woman despite my divorce not being finalized. I guess my question is, why would God give me signs to continue with something that is obviously adultery? This seems to be exactly what is happening.
Well, consider that she is going out with a married man. Are you sure you want that?
 
Why would this woman come into my life and help me heal and recover from the years of soul crushing emotional and physical abuse I’m getting away from? I don’t understand how something that is adultery can provide such positive things like learning to love myself again, and strengthening my previously declining faith.
Everything everyone else has replied is true. The devil can disguise himself as anything he wants to to lure us away from God.

As far as help with healing from an abusive relationship, learning to love yourself again, and strengthening your previously declining faith, a good Catholic therapist and spiritual director can provide you with all those things while not leading you into sin.

Just my :twocents:
 
Now, I am well aware of the teachings of the Church and I do agree with them. However, I also understand the point of view of the OP.

My ex-husband and I had recently separated when I met my DH. I was not yet divorced due to simply not having the money to file. There was absolutely no chance I would or could return to the “marriage”. DH was a lapsed catholic, practicing Pagan, and so was I. We didn’t seen anything wrong with being together.

DH and I dated for a couple of years, moved in together, and saved to pay for the divorce. We married 2 months after the divorce was final. We just celebrated our 12th wedding anniversary and 15 years as a couple.

10 years into our marriage DH returned to the faith of his youth, catholicism, and I felt called to convert. Now we are awaiting an annulment of my first “marriage” so that we can convalidate our marriage and receive the Sacraments.

I understand where you are coming from, OP. As far as you are concerned, the marriage is over and you’re just waiting on the official paperwork. That is probably how your lady friend views it, as well. In secular society, once someone has separated and/or filed for divorce they are viewed as single and available. The problem is that this is not what the Church teaches. The Church teaches that all marriages are presumed valid and that you are still a married man until your soon to be ex wife dies or you are given a Decree of Nullity.

The only advice I can give you is to keep your relationship with this woman chaste until the divorce is finalized, you have applied for and received a Decree of Nullity, and have validly married her in the Church.

And, really, apply for your annulment as soon as you have your copy of the divorce papers. Annulments take time. A lot of time. You’ll need 3+ witnesses to the courtship and marriage as well as the early years of the marriage. Which means you want to contact people and secure their agreement to help before you lose touch and while things are still fresh-ish in their minds. If it were me, I’d get the annulment application now. It takes some time to fill out and people often think of things to add over a period of days and weeks. If you have your papers now and go over the questions you may find yourself adding information about events or thoughts/beliefs, etc. over a period of time. Not to mention you’ll need to submit things like a copy of the marriage license (for all marriages entered into by either party), divorce papers (for all marriages either had dissolved), Sacramental records (Baptism, Confirmation, Marriage) for both parties, any police or counseling reports and so on. For some people getting certified copies of these documents can take some time and effort. Once the divorce is final you could have your papers complete and be ready to submit the application to the Tribunal immediately.
 
OP, I do understand where you are at. Truly I do. But before everything consider-

You made a vow before God. Will you keep your vow to Him? If you won’t keep your word to Him, who can then trust you?

When my wife decided to leave, it seemed a whole series of opportunities presented themselves. But, seriously I was a mess, I was not myself. I was in pain, reeling from the damage, the upset, the confusion of suddenly no longer being a ‘husband - not in the sacramental sense but in the functional sense’. I was adrift. Emotionally battered by the fact that the person who knew me best in the world, that I would do anything for had rejected me. Had chosen to walk.

Latching onto anyone at that time would have been me using another person as a bandage. Not bringing much into things, but primarily taking. Using them to boost myself at a time when- what would I be bringing to them, what would I be giving? Was there really a connection or just the fact someone else was interested during the time of rejection. Again, at a time where I was not truly myself. What would happen when I finally felt healed? Would I discard the bandage-- which was actually another human being with their feelings, desires, hopes and dreams for the future? I think regardless of what I was thinking at the time I would have been misleading both them and myself. I needed time alone to sort myself out.

The nice thing about choosing to honor my commitment and vow to God was that it forced me to take time to sort myself out. To keep from jumping into something prior to truly being ready. The wisdom of the annulment process is- it forces one to take time and analyze/seriously contemplate your marriage. Your own faults, shortcomings, decisions made, your own part in the failed relationship. If I ever become involved with someone again, I’m much less likely to make the same mistakes. Now, I will be able to give as much as receive.

Additionally, if you accept the Catholic faith and it is important to you-- are you getting into this with the idea that maybe you can get a declaration of nullity in the future? What if you go down the road and the feelings build, and this other person’s future plans, hopes and dreams become centered on you? What will you feel then if you can not get a declaration? It will come down to a choice between discarding your faith, or discarding them. Of turning your back on the teachings of the Church and be severed from the sacraments, or perhaps breaking this person’s heart if you choose the fullness of the faith. How many years will this person have vested in you at that point? If you feel anything for them now-- is it any kind of love to knowingly set up this situation?

I petitioned for a declaration of nullity and recommend you do the same once the divorce is final. Hopefully you have been upfront with this woman. Supportive friends are great, actually a necessity at this time. Treat her as a good friend for now. Let her know you do not want to mislead her or risk hurting her, giving her false hopes. The time to go through the process will give you time to heal, understand your previous marriage and learn to live by/with yourself prior to getting involved with someone else. Better to have the answer from the Church first, understand your obligations from the Church’s perspective to make an informed decision before messing about with other people’s lives.

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.
 
I know what I should do. Let her go and try to work things out with the wife again.
 
I know what I should do. Let her go and try to work things out with the wife again.
This is the difficult path but probably the correct one. Go with what you know: marriage is for life, God purifies us through our spouse. Discern God’s will in that. Your wife probably needs you too.
 
I know what I should do. Let her go and try to work things out with the wife again.
“,emotional and physical abuse I’m getting away from,”

If this is true, than your wife needs to commit to change. You can not continue to be abused or put up with abuse. In addition to being an offense against your dignity, continuing to be a doormat will result in you continuing to be walked on— and your wife will not improve herself, address the things she does.

It is admirable that you will commit to your marriage, but a marriage takes two people. One of your goals should be that both of you improve yourselves. Please be realistic and demand you both get the assistance you need. Don’t enable bad behavior on her part.

Had a high school friend, we both worked at a restaurant. One day his sister came in, said something to him and he took off immediately. Turns out he had to go home and throw his new step-father out of the house, which included a physical fight. It was his fourth step-father and he was beating up the mom, just like the three step-fathers before him. He no longer cared that his mother kept choosing to put herself through this, but was truly frightened for his sisters. I mention this to point out to you that there are things you shouldn’t put up with.
 
I know what I should do. Let her go and try to work things out with the wife again.
Is that even possible? If the papers are filed it usually means the marriage is over. Sometimes, the couple can reconcile. But for that to work both people have to be willing to commit 100% to making the marriage work. Do you think your wife would be willing and able to do that? Are you willing and able to do that? If so, then try!
 
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