Do Animals Have Souls?

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JReducation said:
This is a very good response. And as theologians say, the more deeply that we understand man, the more deeply that we understand God. One of the ways through which God makes himself comprehensible to us is through our own humanity.

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True. But what about the people who believe they are God?

Q: What is the difference between God and Obama?
A: God does not think he is Obama.

(P.S. Despite my jokes in this thread, I take your posts seriously, as showing good understanding.)
 
itinerant1 said:
True. **But what about the people who believe they are God? **

Q: What is the difference between God and Obama?
A: God does not think he is Obama.

(P.S. Despite my jokes in this thread, I take your posts seriously, as showing good understanding.)
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Bold is mine.

Jesus had a response for them. ā€œCome and see.ā€ šŸ˜ƒ

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF šŸ™‚
 
JReducation said:
The theory that man evolved from an ape has been debunked. Very few subscribe to it. We do believe that man has evolved in all respects: physical, intellectual, social, etc. But almost all the theories of evolution suggest that there was not transition from a non-human speceis to a human one.
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itinerant1 said:
There is much more that is not known about evolution than there is that we do know. It is such as vast theory and all encompassing theory that tries to connect facts over long distances and very long periods of time that the theory will constantly change with new facts and new ways of interpreting facts. Evolutionary theory should look very different in three or five hundred years from now.

There really isnā€™t much that was new about evolution with Darwin. Evolutionary ideas were already circulating in his time. Darwin explained five theories of evolution (or five main aspects of the theory) and he amassed as much evidence as he could for those theories. The problem with Darwin and neo-Darwinism is not the evolutionary science but the materialist ideology that was grafted onto the scientific theory. Charles Darwin himself interpreted all of nature and the mind of man through a materialist (and basically atheistic) ideology.
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:tsktsk:That subject weā€™re not supposed to talk about again!
 
RobbyS said:
The mystery is, since all seems to be in flux, is that things exist at all.
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All is not in flux. For example, the human intellective soul, the seat of personhood, individual consciousness and of the ā€œIā€ remains substantially unchanged throughout the almost infinite changes manā€™s physical nature undergoes from conception to maturity until the death of the body, of which the soul survives.
 
RobbyS said:
The mystery is, since all seems to be in flux, is that things exist at all.
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Existence would still be a mystery even if things did not change but the fact that they do change heightens the mystery!
 
tonyrey said:
Existence would still be a mystery even if things did not change but the fact that they do change heightens the mystery!
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I see now what you mean, and I completely agree.

Existence in all its myriad forms of manifestation is an awesome mystery. It seems, though, that as we grow older we become dulled and conditioned to things, and we are hardly awake to the grand mystery all around us.

We know that God works special miracles, but if we were more awake to reality we would see that the cosmos and everything existing in it is truly miraculous.

And then there is the mystery of our own being. The deepest part of who and what we are remains hidden in this life from our conscious awarenessā€¦
 
Jon 3 1:10 sheds so much light on this subject he clearly states that what goes for men goes for animals god asked the people of ninveh to fast even the animals so they too can participate in the redemption
 
armalanon said:
Jon 3 1:10 sheds so much light on this subject he clearly states that what goes for men goes for animals god asked the people of ninveh to fast even the animals so they too can participate in the redemption
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The king of Nineveh actually made the proclamation that ā€œman and beastā€ were to fast in the book of Jonah. Do you really think the animals of Nineveh needed or were capable of repentence?
 
Robintrinket said:
The king of Nineveh actually made the proclamation that ā€œman and beastā€ were to fast in the book of Jonah. Do you really think the animals of Nineveh needed or were capable of repentence?
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Your reply is exactly right, and this is why animals do not have immortal souls. They are incapable of sinning, they act according to their natures and then they die.
 
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