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The thread title is what Catholics believe.
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Paul_G
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No assumptions here, I asked a clarifying question, in light of your reference to JFK Jr.
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papist1
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YES! of course the church who wrote the new testament and canonized scripture, believes in the great flood and that only 8 people in all were spared.
absolutely! why is it that there are mammoths being found in frozen underground caverns where they were washed under during the flood?
why is it that we only see ancient forms of aquatic life still alive?
Because they creatures of the sea were spared.only land creatures were killed except the ones i the ark.
and as far as the repopulation of mankind is concerned…
Jesus fulfilled over 29 prophesies in his last week alive, which has the odds of 800 million to 1 of all being fulfilled, so if God can do that in a week, let alone create the universe, then he can surely populate the earth in a matter of a few thousand years.
absolutely! why is it that there are mammoths being found in frozen underground caverns where they were washed under during the flood?
why is it that we only see ancient forms of aquatic life still alive?
Because they creatures of the sea were spared.only land creatures were killed except the ones i the ark.
and as far as the repopulation of mankind is concerned…
Jesus fulfilled over 29 prophesies in his last week alive, which has the odds of 800 million to 1 of all being fulfilled, so if God can do that in a week, let alone create the universe, then he can surely populate the earth in a matter of a few thousand years.
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Sorry, but they do not let such things slide, ever ever ever. The only reason he would not be tried in a Bishop’s court and excommunicated for adultry is if he, for some reason did not realize the seriousness of the crime or it was a one time thing and he truly repented for his sin. In his case he would be excommunicated, regardless of how long it has been, it is part of the repentance process. Having been a Bishop he knew better than to commit adultry. He can not ask for modification of LDS teachings any more than a Catholic can ask the RCC to modify it’s teachings. We believe as you do, that our teachings come from God. You can not tell God what to do.
I have been gone for a week, so maybe another person has answered this further down the thread, I have to read the rest, but wanted to answer this one here.
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BJ_Colbert
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After reading all of the above statements concerning the flood, it seems to me that there are personal theories about the extent of the flood among the Catholics, just as there are among the Mormons.
I personally have never heard an official LDS Church proclamation concerning the flood. I personally believe that God has the power to flood the earth and I always have taken the bible literally in the sense of a universal flood.
I have not studied the various theories, nor speculated on whether God could have or would have flooded the earth. I believe He could and would if He wanted to. The Bible says he did. I am sure there are more learned persons who disagree with the Bible and with me.
As for Jerusha’s claim that the Catholic Church excommunicates in private, I don’t know anything about how the RCC goes about excommunicating.
The LDS Church also excommunicates in private. The court is held in the Bishop’s office with his two counselors present. The accused is there of his own free will, and presents his case in his own words, the Bishop takes everything under consideration, and after considering the facts of each case on an individual basis consults with the Prophet and his counselors, before issuing a decree of excommunication. The person and the bishopric are the only ones who know unless, as in the case of the Australian being discussed he wants it to be spread worldwide. It was his choice to let it be known.
Excommunication is the first step in repentance if the person wants to come back to the Church. He may go through the steps of repentance and be rebaptized at a later date.
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I personally have never heard an official LDS Church proclamation concerning the flood. I personally believe that God has the power to flood the earth and I always have taken the bible literally in the sense of a universal flood.
I have not studied the various theories, nor speculated on whether God could have or would have flooded the earth. I believe He could and would if He wanted to. The Bible says he did. I am sure there are more learned persons who disagree with the Bible and with me.
As for Jerusha’s claim that the Catholic Church excommunicates in private, I don’t know anything about how the RCC goes about excommunicating.
The LDS Church also excommunicates in private. The court is held in the Bishop’s office with his two counselors present. The accused is there of his own free will, and presents his case in his own words, the Bishop takes everything under consideration, and after considering the facts of each case on an individual basis consults with the Prophet and his counselors, before issuing a decree of excommunication. The person and the bishopric are the only ones who know unless, as in the case of the Australian being discussed he wants it to be spread worldwide. It was his choice to let it be known.
Excommunication is the first step in repentance if the person wants to come back to the Church. He may go through the steps of repentance and be rebaptized at a later date.
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ben_dy
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Paul G:
I’ve spent all day reading this LDS section (and fear that it will keep me up past midnight). My only knowledge of this sect comes from 5 visits by two very nice young men to my home in 2003 and a book which they left me which includes the ‘Book of Mormon’, the ‘Doctrine and Covenants’, and the ‘Pearl of Great Price’ - and I did read it from cover to cover. Very nice young men, more knowledgeable of their faith than most 19 or 21 year old Catholics that I know, and some good ‘Jell-o’ jokes. But I found the books of little interest.
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I would hope that JFK - like we common folk would do - confessed and was forgiven his adultery. In the RCC we see sin as something that, confessed, can and will be forgiven.
I’ve spent all day reading this LDS section (and fear that it will keep me up past midnight). My only knowledge of this sect comes from 5 visits by two very nice young men to my home in 2003 and a book which they left me which includes the ‘Book of Mormon’, the ‘Doctrine and Covenants’, and the ‘Pearl of Great Price’ - and I did read it from cover to cover. Very nice young men, more knowledgeable of their faith than most 19 or 21 year old Catholics that I know, and some good ‘Jell-o’ jokes. But I found the books of little interest.
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mjdonnelly
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Nope, a parish cannot excommunicate anyone, it has to come from Rome in either a decree for an automatic type or they hold a hearing of sorts there and issue a specific excommunication.
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honeybear
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BJ Colbert:
The Church never ex communicates in private. One of the motivations of ex communications is to warn the faithful not to follow a certain path. This can only be done publicly. Jerusha is mistaken.
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