Do Catholics believe that Tradition ≥ Bible?

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Ignatius said:
Actually even the New Testament actually is tradition and was passed on for several generations as Sacred Tradition before some of it was written down and became what we now call the New Testament.

Some man made traditions not found in the bible are:
  1. Scripture alone is the sole rule of Faith - not in the bible.
  2. Saved by ‘Faith Alone’ is not in the bible.
  3. That once we are saved we are always saved is not in the bible.
  4. Saying ‘I accept Jesus as the Lord of my life’ will cause us to be saved is not in the bible.
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Dance, dance, wherever you may be…thanks for not answering the question.
 
Tradition means something to pass on down …right?

Well isn’t that what the Bible was? Something that got passed on down? It is a part of Sacred Tradition.

The Bible is a good example of tradition.👍
 
Tradition in the narrower sense (Tradition + Scripture = Deposit of Faith) is greater than Scripture, even though both are infallible, because Scripture proceeds from Tradition. Tradition is ‘the deeds wrought by God in the history of salvation’ (Dei Verbum, n. 2). Scripture is the written account of those deeds. The living Tradition refers to the transmission of Tradition from generation to generation.
 
Pwrlftr said:
What traditions does the RCC teach that aren’t found in scripture? If you think there are any, how do you know where these traditions came from?

If you don’t think there are any traditions that aren’t found in scripture, than I guess the traditions Paul taught are found within the pages of scripture?
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I would like to know the answer to these questions if anyone can do so would be great for my understanding.
 
fellowChristian said:
Tradition means something to pass on down …right?

Well isn’t that what the Bible was? Something that got passed on down? It is a part of Sacred Tradition.

The Bible is a good example of tradition.
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Yes, exactly, the New Testament is one of the Sacred Traditions.👍
 
cath0lic said:
I would like to know the answer to these questions if anyone can do so would be great for my understanding.
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Hello brother cath0lic. Here are some:
  1. The Catholic Doctrine Incarnation of God as man
  2. Trinitarian Doctrine
  3. The New Testament Texts
  4. The Canon of the New Testament
  5. The Authentic understanding of Sacred Scripture as passed down from the Apostles
  6. The Divine Liturgy of St. James the Apostle
The list is endless.

The Secret Vatican Archives contain hundreds of thousands of artifacts. Here you can do additional research to your hearts content. asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm.

Please keep this under your hat and under no circumstances is this to be given out to non-Catholics. :eek:

Your servant in Christ.
 
Ignatius said:
Hello brother cath0lic. Here are some:
  1. The Catholic Doctrine Incarnation of God as man
  2. Trinitarian Doctrine
  3. The New Testament Texts
  4. The Canon of the New Testament
  5. The Authentic understanding of Sacred Scripture as passed down from the Apostles
  6. The Divine Liturgy of St. James the Apostle
The list is endless.

The Secret Vatican Archives contain hundreds of thousands of artifacts. Here you can do additional research to your hearts content. asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm.

Please keep this under your hat and under no circumstances is this to be given out to non-Catholics. :eek:

Your servant in Christ.
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***Hi, Ignatius!

…which begs the question: Why Secret Archives? 🤷

Maran atha!

Angel***
 
The Church used sacred tradition to determine which books where inspired. Due to the mythology in the selection of the scripture your find that most traditions are included in the bible. If I’m to pick which is superior I’ll say neither, I’ll pick the Church to be superior to both.
 
If we deny tradition, we deny scripture itself. Yes, scripture is revealed by the Holy Spirit. BUT all scripture was handed down by oral tradition prior to being reduced to writing. This applies to the Old and New Testament. In point o fact, the New Testament was written by Catholic authors. Scripture and Tradition are the means of revelation by the Holy Spirit. The magisterium is made up of the pope and bishops which comprise the official teaching authority of the Catholic Church.
Deacon Ed B
 
cath0lic said:
I would like to know the answer to these questions if anyone can do so would be great for my understanding.
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The Trinity
The Hypostatic Union
That Christians can honor the Sabbath on Sunday instead of Saturday
Theotokos (Mother of God)

Most all the Sacred Traditions are found in Scripture, at least in seed form.
 
jcrichton said:
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Ignatius:
Originally Posted by Ignatius
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*Hello brother cath0lic. Here are some:
  1. The Catholic Doctrine Incarnation of God as man
  2. Trinitarian Doctrine
  3. The New Testament Texts
  4. The Canon of the New Testament
  5. The Authentic understanding of Sacred Scripture as passed down from the Apostles
  6. The Divine Liturgy of St. James the Apostle
The list is endless.

The Secret Vatican Archives contain hundreds of thousands of artifacts. Here you can do additional research to your hearts content. asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm*.

Please keep this under your hat and under no circumstances is this to be given out to non-Catholics. :eek:

Your servant in Christ.

Hi, Ignatius!

***…which begs the question: Why Secret Archives? 🤷 ***

Maran atha!

Angel
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Shhhhh! So the Prots don’t find out about it! Shhhh!
 
Ignatius said:
Shhhhh! So the Prots don’t find out about it! Shhhh!
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***Hi, Ignatius!

…and here I thought that it was to make a killing when they auctioned off the various items on ebay! 😛

Maran atha!

Angel***
 
Homerun40968 said:
How superior or inferior is tradition to the Bible in the Catholic Church. What is tradition composed of?
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A good question 🙂​

ISTM the three are symbiotic, & indwell one another - somewhat as the three Divine Persons indwell One Another. I’ve not seen the idea in print, but I think it avoids error, & is less static than the comparison with a three-legged stool. A stool is inert & dead - the Bible is a living, powerful, energising thing, as is the Church; & so is is Tradition. IMHO, the Bible has a certain priority - it is the latest in time, but first in excellence, & regulates the others. (This may sound odd - there are analogies though)

Tradition is ultimately - not in time but in meaning - Trinitarian: it is something Christ handed on to His Apostles, having received it from His Father, & it is given life & made fruitful - in His Church & in the individual Christian - by His Holy Spirit. It is not a dead thing - that moment it becomes that, it becomes deadly.

Just an idea or two 🙂
 
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