Do East & West have different views of Theosis?

[Eric_Prine]

I came across this paragraph in a devotional called the Divine Intimacy by Fr Gabriel OCD. Is what he is saying true? I thought that we continue to grow in love after our death.

 

[Phillip_Rolfes]

I came across this paragraph in a devotional called the Divine Intimacy by Fr Gabriel OCD. Is what he is saying true? I thought that we continue to grow in love after our death.

This represents just one theologian’s view, not that of the entire Western mystical tradition. I recommend checking into the Catechism to see what it has to say as that will give a more definitive view of the Western Church than just one theologian.

What he says certainly doesn’t seem to agree with what St. Paul says in the Scriptures about moving from glory to glory.

The general consensus that I’ve been able to discover is that the trajectory of our lives at the moment of our death continues on in the life after death. If we were on a trajectory of total love, then that continues.

It seems to me that this theologian’s view would also not agree with the Western concept of purgatory…

 

[Casilda]

Some other opinions of Fr. Gabriel’s book:

“This book of meditations is meant for all priests, seminarians, religious, the devout laity, all who aspire to greater union with God: that is, to divine intimacy.”
Pope John XXIII

“This Book of Meditations on the interior life for every day of the liturgical year is a pearl of great price. For spiritual reading and personal prayer, it is a treasure, providing sound guidance on the journey of prayer, and a safe companion on the road to holiness and to intimate union with God.”
Bishop Philip Boyce O.C.D, Bishop of Raphoe, Ireland.

Source:
baroniuspress.com/book.php?wid=56&bid=48#tab=tab-1

I do not believe we err in trying to achieve this intimacy with God right now in the present moment.

Matthew 5:3-13
Blessed are the poor in spirit; the kingdom of heaven is theirs. 4 Blessed are the patient; they shall inherit the land. 5 Blessed are those who mourn; they shall be comforted. 6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for holiness; they shall have their fill. 7 Blessed are the merciful; they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed are the clean of heart; they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peace-makers; they shall be counted the children of God. 10 Blessed are those who suffer persecution in the cause of right; the kingdom of heaven is theirs. 11 Blessed are you, when men revile you, and persecute you, and speak all manner of evil against you falsely, because of me. 12 Be glad and light-hearted, for a rich reward awaits you in heaven; so it was they persecuted the prophets who went before you.

 

[Speak_The_Truth]

youtube.com/watch?v=LQCYzZckFCE

Watch this video. Below are 3 beliefs that go totally against what the bible teaches.

• They Believe you can confess your sins to a priest who can forgive you
• The Roman catholic church idolizes Mary, and many of the other saints
• They Believe in purgatory, despite it being mentioned NO WHERE in the bible.

Jesus Christ is the only one who can forgive you of your sins, no man has the power to for-give you

It says in the bible over and over again you shall have no idols before the lord your god. Did Mary die on the cross for our sins? did any saint die on the cross for our sins?

Jesus says in his own word numerous times that Hell is eternal, and that heaven is eternal also.

Please read the description of the video no how to be saved. Don’t take my word for it read what the KJV Bible actually teaches.

 

[Eric_Prine]

This represents just one theologian’s view, not that of the entire Western mystical tradition. I recommend checking into the Catechism to see what it has to say as that will give a more definitive view of the Western Church than just one theologian.

What he says certainly doesn’t seem to agree with what St. Paul says in the Scriptures about moving from glory to glory.

The general consensus that I’ve been able to discover is that the trajectory of our lives at the moment of our death continues on in the life after death. If we were on a trajectory of total love, then that continues.

It seems to me that this theologian’s view would also not agree with the Western concept of purgatory…

Thanks for suggesting the catechism. It didn’t explicitly answer my question, but I’m guessing this topic may not be as explored as in the East nor dogmatically defined by them. I do agree with you though that the concept of Purgatory would be more align with Theosis, than what this particular priest stated.