Do members of non-Cathoic denominations believe their church is the One True Church of Jesus Christ?

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Opinions and hearsay will not convince me unless the bishop here at this Diocese specifically has enough evidence to prove a parish or several parishes are teaching different doctrines.Is it possible? Yes. Does it happen? I am sure it has somewhere.
Hey, Nicea. When you said that about unorthodox teaching it reminded me of this Catholic Church I visited in Guatemala. In Chichicastenango the Mayan priests offer sacrifices to their gods on the steps of the church in broad daylight. I don’t remember exactly how the Mayan priests and the Catholic priests interact, but they do somehow. I thought that they had somehow mixed the beliefs of Christianity and the Mayan religion. I might have it wrong, but that is what I remembered from 15 to 20 years ago. It sticks in my mind because the Protestants in the area used the example to promote their churches saying that the Gospel they preached was not defiled by the Mayan religion. Here is your somewhere.

Here is a Wiki link about the Church:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_de_Santo_Tom%C3%A1s

I don’t really know if that fits y’all’s conversation, but you both might find that one interesting. I know it is an isolated incident, but for a Friday that should mix it up a bit. You would think that if the Mayan and Catholic priests could get along then it should be much easier for Protestants and Catholics to do the same.
 
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You think unity is okay if one church teaches the Eucharist is symbolic and another as the Real Presence?
Possibly.

“Symbolic” in theology is used in a way different from most common understandings. Theologically, as a term, it’s much more powerful and rich than most think. It comes from the Greek, which used the word to refer to e.g. what we translate as “Creed”.
 
What other Christians are there other than Trinitarian?
Those that follow Jesus as the begotten son of God but not God Himeslf. The JWs are the most widespread and the INC is the llargest in membership, consider themselves Christians. And when they witness they consider themsleves as helping to bring people to the “true church”
 
What other Christians are there other than Trinitarian?
Some Christian traditions either reject the doctrine of the Trinity or consider it unimportant. Persons and groups espousing this position generally do not refer to themselves as “Nontrinitarians”. They can vary in both their reasons for rejecting traditional teaching on the Trinity, and in the way they describe God.

Nontrinitarian groups:

Since Trinitarianism is central to so much of church doctrine, nontrinitarians were mostly groups that existed before the Nicene Creed was codified in 325 or are groups that developed after the Reformation, when many church doctrines came into question.

In the early centuries of Christian history Adoptionists, Arians, Ebionites, some Gnostics, Marcionites, and others held nontrinitarian beliefs. The Nicene Creed raised the issue of the relationship between Jesus’ divine and human natures. Monophysitism (“one nature”) and monothelitism (“one will”) were early attempts, considered heretical by trinitarians, to explain this relationship.

During more than a thousand years of Trinitarian orthodoxy, formal nontrinitarianism, i.e., a doctrine held by a church, group, or movement, was rare, but it did appear. For example, among the Cathars of the 13th century. The Protestant Reformation of the 1500s also brought tradition into question. At first, nontrinitarians were executed (such as Servetus), or forced to keep their beliefs secret (such as Isaac Newton). The eventual establishment of religious freedom, however, allowed nontrinitarians to more easily preach their beliefs, and the 19th century saw the establishment of several nontrinitarian groups in North America and elsewhere. These include Christadelphians, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Unitarians. Some Messianic groups are also nontrinitarian. Servetus heavily influenced the theology of Emanuel Swedenborg; the church founded on his writings is a small but influential nontrinitarian movement. Some groups espousing Binitarianism such as the Living Church of God claim that Binitarianism was the majority view of those that professed Christ in the second century.

Twentieth-century nontrinitarian movements include Iglesia ni Cristo, Most Holy Church of God in Christ Jesus, and the Unification Church. Nontrinitarian groups differ from one another in their views of Jesus Christ, depicting him variously as a divine being second only to God the Father (e.g., Jehovah’s Witnesses), as Yahweh of the Old Testament in human form, as God (but not eternally God), as Son of God but inferior to the Father (versus co-equal), as a prophet, or simply as a holy man.

Oneness Pentecostals deny traditional Trinitarian doctrine, while affirming their belief that God took on flesh in the man Jesus Christ. Like Trinitarians, Oneness adherents believe that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man. However, whereas Trinitarians believe that “God the Son” (a being whose existence is denied in Oneness theology), the eternal second person of the Trinity, became man, Oneness adherents hold that the one and only true God—who manifests himself in any way he chooses, including as Father, Son and Holy Spirit—became man. Oneness believers view “Father”, “Son” and “Holy Spirit” as titles, reflecting different manifestations of the one true God in the universe. Oneness Pentecostals are regarded by orthodox Christians as subscribing to the heresy of Modalism, teaching that God displayed himself in the Old Testament as Father, in the Gospels as the Son, and after the Ascension as the Holy Spirit, which is not the orthodox doctrine of three distinct and eternal Persons in one divine essence. Rather, Oneness teaches that there is only one being, revealing himself in different ways.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity

I bolded the churches which do not accept Trinitarianism. When I was reading this I read that Newton did not believe in Trinitarianism - just a little fact that might be of interest.
 
I don’t know if reconciliation could ever happen. I think it would take a very long time if it ever happened. There are so many barriers that have been ingrained into the cultures of both Protestants and Catholics alike. The biggest one raised its ugly little head in this thread regarding what constitutes the one true church. We would have to decide to not demand that the other recognize our position as being the correct one as a prerequisite. It is more likely that we would just end up settling for increased cooperation and occasional nondenominational worship sans the sacraments. When we get to the point where we can both rejoice in the achievements of the other side and count them as a victory in Christ we would be getting close.

To a certain extent I see some of that happening already. I attended spiritual renewal program called Walk to Emmaus. It was born out of the Catholic Cursillo movement and it shows. Before becoming a separate movements both Protestants and Catholics participated together within the Cursillo organization. Unfortunately the popularity of the movement made it difficult to continue operating in that fashion. I also know that in my home town the Catholic priest and many from his Parrish commonly participate with the protestants in prayer breakfasts and other non-denominational events.

I am very sorry about your husband. I almost wish I hadn’t said anything about condemnation so as to not open that wound. On the other hand I am glad we were able to connect on a deeper level because of it.

All the best.
Please don’t feel bad about my husband. I wouldn’t mention it if it were bothering me. It just struck me as so strange that people who didn’t even know him would condemn him. Sometimes it does hurt a lot, but not now. I didn’t have any sad feelings discussing it.

Thanks for the clarification of your views on reconciliation. I don’t think it will happen until the Second Coming. There are just too many people involved. The Catholic Church has more than a billion members. I don’t know how many people are Protestant but I’m sure it’s a very large number, too. If we put five people into a room and told them to debate religion I would bet that within ten minutes all five would be yelling and threatening and a few would start punching the others out. If five people can’t get along, how can billions?

It’s sad to me because I do wish it would happen. But then I know everything will be OK in the end. If we choose heaven we go to heaven. If we don’t, we don’t. And I think that in heaven we will know the answers and Truth and the differences we have on earth will disappear in our joy of being one with Christ.

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Possibly.

“Symbolic” in theology is used in a way different from most common understandings. Theologically, as a term, it’s much more powerful and rich than most think. It comes from the Greek, which used the word to refer to e.g. what we translate as “Creed”.
By any chance do you have a reference for this? I’ve never heard this before and it really interests me. Thanks!

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I don’t know, why did some men from Rome find the Roman Catholic church, and say Jesus found it. It’s beyond me!
welcome to CAF JW. Hopefullyyou can get some of your misunderstandings cleared up while you are here?

The Catholic Church is not “Roman”.

It did not start in Rome.

Rome became the center of primacy because Peter and Paul both labored there to teach sound doctrine.
 
Those that follow Jesus as the begotten son of God but not God Himeslf. The JWs are the most widespread and the INC is the llargest in membership, consider themselves Christians. And when they witness they consider themsleves as helping to bring people to the “true church”
They are not Christians, though they may consider themselves such. Christians are defined in one fundamental consideration by what they profess/believe, i.e. the Creed. Anyone who does not believe in the Trinity is not a Christian, despite what they may call themselves. That’s a fundamental understanding among Christians of what it means to be Christian.
 
By any chance do you have a reference for this? I’ve never heard this before and it really interests me. Thanks!

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I think any available dictionary, encyclopedia, etc. that deals with Catholic theology and/or liturgy would help (none I know of are available online except the old Catholic Encyclopedia at the New Advent site).

After a brief search on Google, this article might help: ewtn.com/library/LITURGY/SIGSYM.TXT
 
I think any available dictionary, encyclopedia, etc. that deals with Catholic theology and/or liturgy would help (none I know of are available online except the old Catholic Encyclopedia at the New Advent site).

After a brief search on Google, this article might help: ewtn.com/library/LITURGY/SIGSYM.TXT
Thank you. I’m still learning how to use online Catholic sites. Sometimes I think they are Catholic and then they turn out to be anti-Catholic. I even started a thread about the New Advent website because I was concerned about using it and some posters were a little upset at me for that. Looking back I can understand why they were upset as it is a very good (although sometimes archaic) site.

Thanks for the link. I will check it out.
 
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