Do We Need all of the PreVatican Traditions?

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A curious question. For those of you who have adopted the traditional church (i.e. EO format, etc.), are there any traditions that you see as inconsistent with our society today?

I say that partly out of another thread that I am involved with about alter girls…there has been a long time tradition of boys only and I think that is one tradition we can scrap…anyways, what part of the church in 1948 can we scrap in the interests of the church making sense in 2012?

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I’ve read a couple of your posts and you seem to have your mind made up on the subject of “altar” girls.

There’s nothing essentially wrong with having women involved in the liturgy in various roles. We need women to be nuns and to take other active roles in the Church, like motherhood and wifery.

I realize that a lot – a lot – of women have varying objections to “male dominance.” I think the women have to do some soul searching about what male dominance means, in regards to the Church. Women have gender specific roles to play in the church and in the world, which are actually leadership roles, if they were given their due respect.

So far, I haven’t seen many – or any – men trying to take over opposite-gender roles in the Church or in society. Why not think a whole LOT about that, and then decide how to come back to the table to discuss women’s roles.

A big issue that occurred that required a revision of the modern Catechism of the Catholic Church, was that in the first edition of the CCC around 1990, it said that deacons acted “in persona Christi.” Then, that was seen as a big “woops” and retracted.

Well, there you go, too. If deacons don’t act “in persona Christi” then women might have some wiggle room to become deaconesses, and thus be able to preach and exercise some leadership in the Church. They might act “in persona Maria,” for example.

But, I’m not running the show on this issue.

As a man, i don’t feel that I’m dominating ANYTHNG in the Church, by the way. I don’t have a lot of power in the Church or in the parish, EITHER.
 
I was very disapointined with Cardinal Dolan’s interview with Bill O’ Reilly,wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/card-dolan-interviewed-by-bill-oreilly/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=card-dolan-interviewed-by-bill-oreilly) When O"Reilly asked the Cardinal, if he would tell Catholics not to vote for Obama for President, he replied he would not !!! I feel Cardinal Dolan missed a great teaching moment with his response. Was it not Catholics who put this monster into office with 54% of Catholics voting for Obama? Was it not the failure of the Catholic Church as well their responsibility to warn the faithful from the pulpits across America that voting for a pro abortionist would be grave sin against our Lord and Catholic teaching?
 
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I was very disapointined with Cardinal Dolan’s interview with Bill O’ Reilly,wdtprs.com/blog/2012/03/card-dolan-interviewed-by-bill-oreilly/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=card-dolan-interviewed-by-bill-oreilly) When O"Reilly asked the Cardinal, if he would tell Catholics not to vote for Obama for President, he replied he would not !!! I feel Cardinal Dolan missed a great teaching moment with his response. Was it not Catholics who put this monster into office with 54% of Catholics voting for Obama? Was it not the failure of the Catholic Church as well their responsibility to warn the faithful from the pulpits across America that voting for a pro abortionist would be grave sin against our Lord and Catholic teaching?
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