Do we really believe ‘til death do us part?’

  • Thread starter Thread starter virgo
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
V

virgo

Guest
As Catholics, why do we believe this? Is it doctrine? Do all of us believe it? Whenever someone passes away, many times I hear “Grandma and Grandpa are together again,” or “My husband is waiting for me in heaven,” or “We’ll meet again.” I find it puzzling that we claim belief in one doctrine but live according to another.

Regardless of doctrine, most Christians I know actually believe in heavenly reunions—is essence, death does NOT do us part. So why do we still say this in our wedding vows? What are your thoughts?
 
I think it comes from here…
Matthew…
But from the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. 7For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife. 8And they two shall be in one flesh. Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. 9What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

So then we have commandments that one should not covet thy neighbors wife…

Is what you are asking why do we believe till death us do part? Because then if one dies and death parts them for a while they can remarry… still they will be united again ALL in heaven if they make it that far with God’s grace…
 
Because people use sentimental language does not change the very nature of marriage and would not change the vows.
 
What it means is that the marriage on earth is over, and I am free to marry someone else on earth now - NOT that I’ll never see my husband again. The full sentence, is, “I, Bear, take you, Mr. Bear, to be my lawful wedded husband…(etc.)…till death do us part.”

I would hope that we would see each other again in heaven, but we will not be married to each other there. I am also hoping to see the guy I dated and loved before I met my husband and who died about 15 years ago, in heaven and it will be just fine for me to spend quality time with them both, whereas here on earth there would be at the very least a scandal and at worst some kind of affair if I did that.

Also, my husband’s dying has indeed physically parted him from me - temporarily, but we’re still “parted” for now. It didn’t say “till death do us part forever.”
 
Last edited:
The Gospels of Matthew (Ch 22), Mark (Ch 12) and Luke (Ch 20) stated it rather clearly.

Here’s Christ’s answer from Matthew CH 20: 29-30:

29 Jesus said to them in reply, “You are misled because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God. 30 At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven."
The Gospels make it clear that we can remarry after the death of a spouse but there is no marriage in Heaven.

Being in the presence of God is way more than sufficient.
 
Last edited:
I’m looking for that scripture, but it’s not Matthew 20:29-30. ???
 
In Heaven, God is quite capable of manifesting His presence through the love of our loved ones who are already there and waiting for us.
 
Isn’t another purpose of marriage to get your spouse to heaven??? I’m sure my mother told me that… 😉
 
Although we won’t marry or be given in marriage in Heaven, our loved ones will still be our friends, and all the brokenness and imperfections of our current relationship will be healed.
 
A lady at work once told me how her sister, in a hospital, had a powerful dream - ( both in their mid 60’s )
And she was entering into Heaven - when suddenly - she saw her grandparents and parents -
but not their oldest sister.
The oldest sister had died years before…she lived rather sinfully…she wasn’t with them.

This disturbed - greatly - the sister in the hospital -
she wouldn’t be consoled - and she too died a week later.
The woman telling me this story -
you really had to see her eyes - and how she spoke of the event.
She - was now - visibly disturbed.
 
Also, the sacrament of marriage is unique in that it is the couple that enacts it. In order to be receiving the grace of the sacrament of holy matrimony, both spouses must be living. You can not be married to a dead person. It is not about not believing in a reunion, but the earthly marriage ends when one spouse dies because the covenant that they made to enact the sacramental union ends at death.
 
As Catholics, we believe in a living Church. I’ve heard it described as the church suffering, the church militant, and the church triumphant. Suffering, those in need, militant those who carry on the faith, and triumphant, those who are united with God in his realm. We are not a church of death. Nothing ends, at least nothing with an immortal soul. The union of a man and woman ends when one transitions from suffering/militant to triumphant. In that case one may marry again. When it comes time, the one behind will unite with the one triumphant. There is not death, and in Christ we are all united. Here and for all time.
Unless of course, one crosses over the river Styx.
 
Last edited:
Exactly, in Heaven will shall be perfectly happy. Lacking nothing.
 
Last edited:
And that’s why we’re not supposed to believe in dreams.
That poor lady…😔
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top