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fate, destiny, predetermination, or the idea that some people are born evil. What about God communicating through dreams?
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SPBlitz
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As far as I’m aware, Catholics do not teach fate/destiny/predetermination/etc. since each person has free will. No one is ever ‘fated’ to do a certain action.fate, destiny, predetermination, or the idea that some people are born evil. What about God communicating through dreams?
I’m pretty sure that the church rejects that anyone is born evil.
While God can communicate through dreams, that doesn’t mean that every dream is an attempted communication from God. Some dreams may have meaning. But some dreams are just dreams.
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nodito
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Catholics believe that we are all given free will to choose to do good or do evil. God knows in advance what we’ll choose, but we choose heaven or hell freely.fate, destiny, predetermination, or the idea that some people are born evil. What about God communicating through dreams?
God can and has communicated through dreams. We know that in Biblical times, for example, Joseph had the ability to interpret dreams and was able to predict an upcoming famine after learning the king dreamed of seven fat cows being consumed by seven skinny cows. But most of the time, I think our dreams reflect the thoughts and worries that consume us during the day and do not have a supernatural origin.
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Everyone has a free will.
I think there are two approaches to fate:
I think there are two approaches to fate:
- We give up ourselves to God completely, and accept our fate, but really by fate we mean God’s will. We accept the ups, but also the downs, as a means to reach our end, meaning God. Our fate is to become close with God. But it’s our choice.
- We don’t give up ourselves to God. We easily blame outside factors, and not ourselves and free choice, i.e. we say it is fate. Sin becomes a result of outside factors. We are not to blame as there is no free choice, as God knows the outcome of our choices.
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pianistclare
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No to “fate” as in the negative aspect.
No to predestination or predetermination.
No to “destiny” when it means that a person just HAS to pursue a certain career.
All of these terms have nuances that change their meaning, so simply stating that Catholic “don’t believe” in such can be awkward.
Catholics believe that we strive to follow the will of God in all things. We choose.
Choose the wrong path, and yeah, your fate will be bad.
Catholics don’t believe in “predestination” or “predetermination” as in “God made certain folks to go to hell in the next life”. Everyone has a choice where they end up.
There are places in Scripture where God spoke to someone in a dream, yes. The problem is, that many people impose their own desire on such things, and it’s very hard to discern…"Is this really the Lord speaking to me? Or am I just claiming to have a lock on what God wants for me, even though it may be contrary to the Gospel. One needs a good spiritual director to keep them in the proper frame of mind for some of this stuff.
No to predestination or predetermination.
No to “destiny” when it means that a person just HAS to pursue a certain career.
All of these terms have nuances that change their meaning, so simply stating that Catholic “don’t believe” in such can be awkward.
Catholics believe that we strive to follow the will of God in all things. We choose.
Choose the wrong path, and yeah, your fate will be bad.
Catholics don’t believe in “predestination” or “predetermination” as in “God made certain folks to go to hell in the next life”. Everyone has a choice where they end up.
There are places in Scripture where God spoke to someone in a dream, yes. The problem is, that many people impose their own desire on such things, and it’s very hard to discern…"Is this really the Lord speaking to me? Or am I just claiming to have a lock on what God wants for me, even though it may be contrary to the Gospel. One needs a good spiritual director to keep them in the proper frame of mind for some of this stuff.
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Isca
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I am comforted to know that God knows what choices I will make, even though I have free will to make those choices. I see this as part of His plan, with each of us playing a tiny part in that.
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dmftx
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Fate is the result of my choices, good or bad. I choose my fate in those choices and, as such, the consequences.
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mommy_k
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I believe God has a plan for each of us. He sets a path for us to follow. We are all “fated” to join Him in heaven, if we follow this path.
The Holy Spirit comes to us remind us of this path, in many ways.
The Holy Spirit comes to us remind us of this path, in many ways.
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phil_at_dayboro
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There are many interesting things about humanity. I believe many if not all humanity have a pre set path to follow , it’s your choice to follow or go some other direction to the detriment of yourself
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thistle
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Fate contradicts Catholic teaching.fate, destiny, predetermination, or the idea that some people are born evil. What about God communicating through dreams?
Modern Catholic Dictionary:
FATE. Predetermined and inevitable necessity. In the non-Christian religions, ancient and modern, it is the belief that events constitute a chain of causes and effects with absolute determinism. It differs from fortune in that the latter falls outside of determinism. (Etym. Latin fatum, what is spoken.)
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