Does the Church have any formal teachings about dealing with emotional abusers?

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These types of men will keep the focus on you being the cause of any problem. When you finally break, in their mind, they have won and will use your break as proof.

That is one of the reasons, not only to avoid this situation as humanly as possible…but how necessary detachment is in one’s spiritual life.

I read on one sight what these kinds of men can’t stand is not seeing you react to them, and going on about your way, you no longer ‘the dump’ for all their issues. They can’t use you as easily as before.
 
Are you saying that you acknowldedge some culpability of your own? I find the bolded quote particularly troublesome - would you accept your husband claiming that his behavior was ‘provoked’ by you? Are you saying that hormones are an acceptable reason to lash out at others?

When you say he’s made a case that you were the abuser, are you saying that he’s been successful in doing so? If he has, does this give you pause for reflection? Who is being deceived?

Please understand that I’m commenting as much about the general topic of emotional abuse as I am your situation.
To answer your question, of course I acknowledge some culpability. Nobody is perfect in this life. When my children are literally bouncing off the walls and I know that a trip to the emergency room is imminent if they don’t stop (they probably have ADHD too), and they have ignored my ‘stop it’ for the 15th time, I tend to yell ‘STOP IT’ really loudly. I get annoyed when I find gum spit out on the floor instead of the trash can for the 50th time. I am probably too lax with my kids to begin with, and then they don’t take me seriously enough and I end up yelling to get their attention. Do I struggle to be the best mom I can be in spite of the circumstances and end up making a lot of mistakes? Heck yes! But is that a valid reason for my husband to abandon me and my children for another man’s wife?

I don’t think anyone is justified in lashing out at others (even with hormones), but it happens sometimes, doesn’t it? And no, I would not accept my husband claiming that his behavior was provoked by me. It just does not hold water and, I think if you knew me, you would be able to see and know that very clearly.

So yes - I was a part of the relationship’s failure because I was part of the relationship. But I worked my butt off to try to make it good. I told him the things that bothered me in an attempt to get him to change those things. But what you don’t understand is that, when you are in a relationship like that, the normal rules do not apply. For instance, I knew that I would want to receive flowers when my son was born. In order to avoid disappointment and resentment, I let my husband know ahead of time that I would really, really like to get flowers in the hospital after I gave birth. I told him no additional present was necessary - no ‘push present’ or anything like that. Just some flowers. Did he get me any flowers? No. And my parents didn’t get me any either because they thought it was odd that my own husband wasn’t getting me any flowers and they didn’t want to upstage him. So I got a few stems of carnations (that looked like they came from a 7-11) that someone at work had given to my Mother-in-law for some reason that day and she passed on down to me. When I told him I was disappointed, he just kept making excuses. (I now realize he most likely did it on purpose - that’s his MO) A few months later, he bought himself a Porsche. I told him I resented that car. He told me he didn’t know what the word ‘resent’ means. I told him to look it up in the dictionary. I’m sure that made me a b*tch - just like the time I insisted that the kids have chocolate bunnies in their Easter baskets even if it meant him having to drive the 6 miles to his house, get them, and bring them back to my house. (From now on, I buy the Easter candy and whatever he says he has bought can be extra - no expectations).

You see, I could have been the most perfect person in the world, but it would not have made a bit of difference. And here’s the rub - I acknowledge these failings in myself. In fact, I am hyper-sensitive to them. He acknowledges no such failings in himself. He paints himself as perfect, but preys on my scrupulosity. That’s what abusers do. So, any time he brings up any fault in me, of course I am going to consider it. That’s what people with a conscience do. And even if it isn’t a valid criticism, I consider it, at least for a moment - that is what abused people do.

With regard to him and his most attempts to bait me into having an outburst, I have become very, very good at not expressing that anger or hurt to him. Does that mean it just goes away? No. I have to control it, find a way to deal with it, cope somehow. Sometimes I am cranky and crabby because of it, and I regret that. That’s why I’m here asking for suggestions. I would like to try to limit the emotional impact he sometimes continues to have on me. I have made great strides, but for 20 years, this man has been at war with me. For most of the time, I had no clue, and I suffered for it. Now I know how to combat it, but it is exhausting.

If you truly have concerns, please contact me privately. I’d rather not continue to air my private life online. To be honest, your questioning of me is starting to feel a bit off-putting. I don’t know if you just have been fortunate enough to never have been in a abusive situation and are just trying to understand, or if there might be other motives, but just as you are concerned about people going overboard with accusations of abuse, I am concerned about re-traumatizing and/or making abuse victims question themselves. Trust me - we/they have already been trained to be hyper-critical of ourselves. We don’t need additional questioning from third parties.
 
These types of men will keep the focus on you being the cause of any problem. When you finally break, in their mind, they have won and will use your break as proof.

That is one of the reasons, not only to avoid this situation as humanly as possible…but how necessary detachment is in one’s spiritual life.

I read on one sight what these kinds of men can’t stand is not seeing you react to them, and going on about your way, you no longer ‘the dump’ for all their issues. They can’t use you as easily as before.
I think this was part of what was going on. There were certainly a lot of other issues, but he saw me getting stronger and standing up to him. With the ADHD medication, he couldn’t so easily say to me ‘I told you that, you just don’t remember’ and have me swallow it like before. I think he was kind of afraid I would be able to see how he was gas-lighting me. Little did he know how innocent I was - I had no clue. It still took me a couple of years to figure it out.
 
It is very hard for people to understand what battered spouses go through.

Think of how many people, teachers, friends, bosses, and so on…who didn’t blame you for anything or everything…only in the person you married, and it doesn’t happen once or twice, it is a way of life for these types.

Yes it is so so so hard to be detached. And they put such mind games on you, they focus so much ongoing contempt on you that everything is your own fault, they say irrational things, and do irrational things…and it is so so hard for an abused person to even explain a cycling manner of speaking and the hijacking and invalidating of these types.

Your former spouse appears to me to have a very attached relationship to his mother who did not get support from her husband, and so she indulged on her son. And she sees any other woman, however, silently, as a rival to her son.

You are going in the right direction. Detachment is a life long work. When somebody talks like that to you, you still experience the wounding and invalidating go into the very depths of your soul…it is like they rob you of your soul and your well being.

What they do is deliberate. And it is very hard to break out away from them.

The ideal answer is to break absolutely all contact with them for the rest of your life, but with children it is impossible. And to deal with the in-laws…these types of men had behaviors before you or other women…behaviors that were not corrected in childhood.

The other practical idea that came to me…is to work on developing a highly structured home with consequences for the kids. You cannot do this alone. Some how, some way…
I will pray help will come to you.

Glad you read Laury’s book and passed it on.

I wish more professionals in the courts would read it, as it attempts to describe a scenario in the home between the abuser and abused spouse, and how the children are manipulated into a created problem, and then the abused is blamed for causing it all. You have to follow the dialogues, and that is also why it is so hard for abused to even describe the language and manner the way the abuser talks…most inappropriate and mean.

How can you relay a psychopathic train of thought to someone else???

God bless you!!! I am so happy you are coming into the Church. There is deep consolation in it. And this is a little weird, but here it goes…I would also be a little detached from your kids. They will grow up. They have a lifetime. Stay focused. Be with Mother Mary to keep you centered. Seek the contemplative holy life.
 
Thank you, Kathleen. I have found a lot of comfort in the Catholic faith. I want to jump for joy when I think about it. These past 7 years, I thought I was on a healing path. I was looking inward, trying to decipher why I put up with abusive behavior, how to change it, etc. I learned a lot and have grown a lot. But yet there was/is this deep wound. I have been crying healing tears for the past four months, and I know that I am on the right path. It’s amazing what one can do when they let go and just trust in the Lord. I’m not there yet - it’s a lifelong journey, and I’m at the beginning of this close relationship with HIm, and I have days when I get very distracted, but He is working amazing things in my soul.

With regard to my ex - there is definitely a mother issue there, but I’m not sure it’s quite what you are thinking. His father actually died when he was 10 after a fairly long illness. His father, I think, from what I have experienced from his side of the family, was probably the more loving, kind, outwardly expressive parent. (To the extent either of them were.) His mom was and is pretty cold and after the father’s death, went to work to support her boys and spent the weekends in her room on Valium nursing migraine headaches. She was like this from the time he was 10 until he was about 20, when she finally sought counseling. My SIL can’t believe that this is the ‘friendlier’ more outgoing MIL. (She didn’t know her in the shut-in days). They two of them are very competitive. It’s really sad. I think it’s more an issue of her passing her narcissism on to him and him, on many occasions, having to figure out how to comfort/parent himself as a child. It’s very sad. But, at the same time, he continues to use it as a way to garner sympathy and has refused the advice of a few therapists to face that wound. He feels it would be too debilitating to open it. So, he limps along, perpetuating the hurt onto his own children. Instead of wanting to give them more love and affection than he received, I often hear, ‘well, MY MOM didn’t do that.’

You are right about the structure, and I do appreciate the prayers. I will certainly need them! Adderall is helpful, but only does so much - lol! (Man, if you could have seen me yesterday - I should have just stayed in bed - would have been more productive!)

It’s funny you mention the contemplative life. I do think I am very much inclined towards it. But right now, I have to figure out how to pay the bills. One day at a time.

I appreciate your sharing of your understanding, too. You are right that it is hard to understand these people, and it can be kind of isolating. I do know women whose ex husbands are much worse than mine, so I do have someone in my life who totally gets it. My parents are pretty understanding, too. I’m not sure they totally get it. My mom, like me, has a very difficult time wrapping her head around the fact that he would be doing these things on purpose, but she has witnessed enough of the gas-lighting behavior herself now, that she at least knows he lies and is abusive.
 
You have my greatest sympathy.

I am working at a spiritual site, a sanctuary where many people come from all over. Their main charism is counselling and I see myself going into counselling of some sort. I am certainly not able to go into more professional programs because they require so so many years of certification.

What is coming to me as well to help you is to grow with Blessed Mother Mary. She is such a great contemplative support to mothers, and such a role model.

I saw a picture of an elderly missionary priest who worked in Appalachia and who has now passed on. He appears to have such a soft spoken demeanor and kindness.

If you work with the help of Mary, to get to that place of gentility and sweetness, you are already leaving the place of abuse and emptiness. Do you follow me???

It is the work of the Church to support single parents. I know of many priests who have special concern for mothers with children.
 
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