Does the Father pray for us? Litany of the Saints rendition implies this

[Ana_v]

There is a rendition to the Litany of the Saints uploaded on youtube that I like, however, I have some uncertainty about the words in the beginning.

It asks that the Father to pray for us, and also asks that the Holy Trinity pray for us.

If the Father prays for us, to whom does he pray? To the Son and the Holy Spirit? I’ve always understood and envisioned that Son praying to the Father, not the other way around (in the Scriptures Christ consistently implicitly and explicity talks about himself in terms of doing the Father’s will).

Also, if the Holy Trinity prays for us, and the Holy Trinity is God, then who does the Holy Trinity pray to (when God is the one who is the supplier of all things)? Or is it that “Holy Trinity, One God, pray for us” is a plea for all three persons of the Trinity to pray to *each other *for us?

Clarification on this would be much appreciated!

 

[zab]

The response to the incantations directed to God the Father, The Son and the Holy Spirit, and Holy Trinity in all of the Litanies that I have seen has always been “Have mercy on us”. the response to the ones directed toward a saint or saints is “pray for us”

 

[TrueLight]

There is a rendition to the Litany of the Saints uploaded on youtube that I like, however, I have some uncertainty about the words in the beginning.

It asks that the Father to pray for us, and also asks that the Holy Trinity pray for us.

If the Father prays for us, to whom does he pray? To the Son and the Holy Spirit? I’ve always understood and envisioned that Son praying to the Father, not the other way around (in the Scriptures Christ consistently implicitly and explicity talks about himself in terms of doing the Father’s will).

Also, if the Holy Trinity prays for us, and the Holy Trinity is God, then who does the Holy Trinity pray to (when God is the one who is the supplier of all things)? Or is it that “Holy Trinity, One God, pray for us” is a plea for all three persons of the Trinity to pray to *each other *for us?

Clarification on this would be much appreciated!

There is no theological explanation. The arranger just messed up.

 

[At_Trent]

There is no theological explanation. The arranger just messed up.

Correct

fisheaters.com/litanysaints.html

 

[Spirithound]

There is no theological explanation. The arranger just messed up.

I agree.

On another note, the Holy Trinity is indeed relationship, and prayer is nothing other than a relationship being exercised, so the Holy Trinity does in fact pray for us.

However, the correct petition for the Holy Trinity in the Litany of the Saints is “Have mercy on us”.

 

[EasterJoy]

I have heard of the Lord praying as a man; I have never heard of God the Father or God the Holy Spirit praying to each other. I have always understood that prayer implies supplication. To whom would God the Father make supplication?

We pray to God, we pray to God for each other, but we don’t refer to God’s communications to us as God praying to us or to communications between ourselves as prayer, when there is no attitude of supplication. I think the word prayer carries that connotaion: that is, of the person praying as taking on the attitude of a supplicant.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I have heard of the Lord praying as a man; I have never heard of God the Father or God the Holy Spirit praying to each other. I have always understood that prayer implies supplication. To whom would God the Father make supplication?..

Right about the Father. However, re the Holy Spirit see Romans 8:26-27

26 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with sighs too deep for words. 27* And he who searches the hearts of men knows what is the mind of the Spirit, because * the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God.

 

[EasterJoy]

Right about the Father. However, re the Holy Spirit see Romans 8:26-27

You’re right. You see the word intercession used concerning communication of the Son to the Father and (as you remind me) of the Holy Spirit to the Father, but you don’t see language implying that the Father intercedes or prays.