Does your EF provide veils for women?

[Phemie]

Yes but there were lots of things in the 1917 Code that had already been abrogated by documents before the 1983 Code was promulgated. I remember being told, in church, that we no longer had to cover our heads.

 

[Jessie]

I see. Thanks. No, I wouldn’t either.

 

[Traddy1962]

I’m curious what document abrogated the wearing of veils? Would be interesting to find out, because to my knowledge there wasn’t one(doesn’t mean there wasn’t one). From research on the topic, no one mentions a document abrogating it.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I’m curious what document abrogated the wearing of veils? Would be interesting to find out, because to my knowledge there wasn’t one(doesn’t mean there wasn’t one). From research on the topic, no one mentions a document abrogating it.

Inter Insigniores, , paragraph 4, is the document usually cited (including by Catholic Answers apologist) as removing the requirement for women’s head coverings.

 

[QwertyGirl]

In Philly hats and headcoverings and mandatory beanies/chapel veils lasted until at least 1971 (the year I moved to New England) and in New England they were gone with the wind by then, sadly, although a lot of older women like my Nana continued wearing hats

Back in the late 60’s I was in Catholic school and our teacher had a box of pink kleenex on her desk. When we headed over to first friday mass, if a girl didn’t have her beanie the nun would bobby pin a pink kleenex on her head. LOLOL. Thanks for the memories!

 

[PetraG]

Women will be approached and required to wear, or else escorted out… it cuts against our current culture

Just by a bit.

This feels…Protestant in its focus on making its own rules.

Human rather than divine is more like it. We have those with the power to bind and loose in Holy Mother Church, and the ushers aren’t it. Obedience is for everybody.

I should be clear - where obligatory it is for non-approved TLMs. Not compliant with bishop.

I thought not.

I know to get into St Peter’s basilica you have to cover up your shoulders and your knees (I have been there in the past).

I don’t think there are any churches that literally have no minimum amount of clothing required.

The correct term for this is “illicit.”

Ironically, yes.

…even when the old code is replaced, it doesn’t just mean they cease to enforce a law.

It means there isn’t any law about that any more.

It is very nice that there are churches who provide veils for those who want to wear one and find themselves without. That is a thoughtful gesture, much like what synagogues do with kippahs for the men.

 

[Anne1964]

My parish has a basket with spare veils. Most, but not all, women wear a veil. If I forget mine I just don’t wear one that day. I am uncomfortable with the idea of using a veil from the basket but some of my friends have used them.

 

[F_Marturana]

I was born in the late 60’s and never saw veils just an occasional older lady in a hat.

We attended mass every Sunday and Fridays and with my class multiple times a year. Sister was very strict. I’m sure if it was required up until 1982 I would have seen some veils at some point.

Could some dioceses have had removed the requirement on their own prior to the revision in canon law?

 

[1ke]

Yes, I’m sure, by indult or dispensation.

Or actually by the congregation for the doctrine of the faith in 1971:

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...cfaith_doc_19761015_inter-insigniores_en.html

 

[CRV]

Quote below for those who do not want to read through the document (even Tis_Bearself linked to the document in post #120)

4. Permanent Value of the Attitude of Jesus and the Apostles
…
…
“Another objection is based upon the transitory character that one claims to see today in some of the prescriptions of Saint Paul concerning women, and upon the difficulties that some aspects of his teaching raise in this regard. But it must be noted that these ordinances, probably inspired by the customs of the period, concern scarcely more than disciplinary practices of minor importance, such as the obligation imposed upon women to wear a veil on their head (1 Cor 11:2-16); such requirements no longer have a normative value”

 

[Diaconia]

My wife attended a TLM some years ago, upon entering someone in the Narthex gave her a veil to borrow, but she did not accept or wear it, to their chagrin.

She has not returned to a TLM since, and has no intention of doing so.

Deacon Christopher

 

[IanM]

My wife attended a TLM some years ago, upon entering someone in the Narthex gave her a veil to borrow, but she did not accept or wear it, to their chagrin.

May I ask what did they do to indicate their chagrin? That is a very wrong thing to do to anyone respectfully entering a Catholic Church.

 

[CilladeRoma]

My guess would be the same eye-rolling, hand-wringing, and audible sighs, along with the well-placed comment about lack of reverence, etc that have happened to me at some of the EF offerings I have been to.
One of the many reasons why I will stick with the OF.

 

[Jen95]

Oh my. If you’re worried about lice from a veil that is used once in a blue moon, I would be very concerned about ever sitting in any upholstered chair in a public place. Or even non-upholstered chairs. Because, bedbugs.

 

[Hlisa]

My parish does not offer veil’s. I think it is a good idea.

 

[Sarcelle]

Now you’ve got me scared.

I’d rather have lice than bedbugs.