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O.K. I was wondering. I heard that somewhere out there, there are some experiments going on with a mixing of animel and human genes, DNA, Island of Dr. Meraou kind or stuff and I was wondering if this was true or not? and If so at what point would the things have a soul and that kind of stuff? “The Law” and the “House of Pain” quitly being sung in the background
 
Perhaps I’m wrong, but I was under the impression that only the children of man/woman union had a soul. I guess that would include artificial insemination and similar processes, because the necessary “ingredients” are there. Maybe there are different classifications of soul…

Such a hybrid creature would likely not have a soul, or perhaps have a different type of soul, not an immortal one not a soul that has anything to do with sin or grace.

I just mainly wanted to bump this thread so it would stay up seen. Someone else likely knows more than my little contribution.

It is neat though, like, how do you know that a soul exists??? In order to legitimatelly (sp?) believe that, there must be a trustworthy source of knowledge for those supernatural type things, otherwise it’s just religious speculation.

hmmmm…
 
This is just plain weird. Where did you read or hear about this? :confused:
 
A Boston College Law Review article on the topic is here:

Nicole E. Kopinski, ** Human-Nonhuman Chimeras: A Regulatory Proposal on the Blurring of Species Lines **
45 B.C. L. Rev. 619 (May 2004)

Scientists debate blending species
By Rick Weiss
Washington Post
Posted on Sun, Nov. 21, 2004

WASHINGTON – In Minnesota, pigs are being born with human blood in their veins. In Nevada, there are sheep whose livers and hearts are largely human. In California, mice peer from their cages with human brain cells firing inside their skulls.

These are not outcasts from “The Island of Dr. Moreau,” the 1896 novel by H.G. Wells in which a rogue doctor develops creatures that are part animal and part human. They are real creations of real scientists.

Biologists call these hybrids chimeras, after the mythical Greek creature with a lion’s head, a goat’s body and a serpent’s tail. They are products of experiments in which human stem cells were added to developing animal fetuses.

Chimeras are allowing scientists to watch, for the first time, how nascent human cells and organs mature and interact – not in the cold isolation of laboratory dishes but inside the bodies of living creatures. Some are already revealing deep secrets of human biology and pointing the way toward new medical treatments.

But with no federal guidelines in place, an awkward question hovers above the work: How human must a chimera be before more stringent research rules should kick in?

The National Academy of Sciences, which advises the federal government, has been studying the issue and hopes to make recommendations by February.

“We need to establish some kind of guidelines as to what the scientific community ought to do and ought not to do,” said James Battey, chairman of the National Institutes of Health’s Stem Cell Task Force.

Chimeras (pronounced ki-MER-ahs) – meaning mixtures of two or more individuals in a single body – are not inherently unnatural. Most twins carry at least a few cells from the sibling with whom they shared a womb, and most mothers carry in their blood at least a few cells from each child they have born.

Scientists for years have added human genes to bacteria and farm animals – feats of genetic engineering that allow those critters to make human proteins such as insulin for use as medicines.

“Chimeras are not as strange and alien as at first blush they seem,” said Henry Greely, a law professor and ethicist at Stanford University who has reviewed proposals to create human-mouse chimeras there.

But chimerism becomes a more sensitive topic when it involves growing entire human organs inside animals. And it becomes especially sensitive when it deals in brain cells, the building blocks of the organ credited with making humans human.

In those experiments, Greely told the academy, “there is a non-trivial risk of conferring some significant aspects of humanity” on the animal.

In one ongoing set of experiments, Jeffrey Platt at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., has created human-pig chimeras by adding human-blood-forming stem cells to pig fetuses. The resulting pigs have both pig and human blood in their vessels. And it’s not just pig blood cells being swept along with human blood cells; some of the cells themselves have merged, creating hybrids.

It is important to have learned that human and pig cells can fuse, Platt said, because he and others have been considering transplanting modified pig organs into people and have been wondering if that might pose a risk of pig viruses getting into patient’s cells. Now scientists know the risk is real, he said, because the viruses may gain access when the two cells fuse.

In other experiments led by Esmail Zanjani at the University of Nevada at Reno, scientists have been adding human stem cells to sheep fetuses. The team now has sheep whose livers are up to 80 percent human – and make all the compounds human livers make.
 
I think it would be better re-stated as “Do the Ninja-Turtles have souls?”

😃
 
Proelium Frater:
I think it would be better re-stated as “Do the Ninja-Turtles have souls?”

😃
Well no, because the Ninja Turtles started out as regular turtles and were mutated by radiactive waste. It’s a no brainer! 👍
 
Montie Claunch:
I heard that somewhere out there, there are some experiments going on with a mixing of animel and human genes…
It’s all true. The Jesuits are behind it!
 
Fred?:
Well no, because the Ninja Turtles started out as regular turtles and were mutated by radiactive waste. It’s a no brainer! 👍
True but, they started out as regular turtles. What about when they begin with some humanness in them though? Wouldn’t that play into it?
It’s all true. The Jesuits are behind it!
Well, of coarse. Haven’t you hear Jack Chick. The Jesuits are behind eavrything.
 
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