Don’t Take Me Out to the Ballgame!

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Honestly, the only thing that’s gotten more tiresome than athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem is people complaining about athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem. Why did this guy go through all this trouble to write this article, two whole weeks into the baseball season, when we’re already aware of what’s going on? And really he’s writing about how he’s not watching baseball anymore. Who cares?

I’m not a fan of kneeling during the anthem, but mostly because I watch sports so as to think about something other than all that’s going on in the world, and I don’t enjoy that being invaded for a brief moment by activism. But I still watch because I still enjoy sports. If that makes me a terrible person or a sellout, whatever.

Conservative virtue signaling is still virtue signaling, and it makes your side look bad.

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To me all the disrespect to the flag and anthem is unconscionable, regardless of what they say their motives are. I was at a semi pro baseball game the other day and when they played the anthem I couldn’t imaging anyone kneeling down. It would have seemed like a kick in the gut on par with burning the flag. That’s my perspective. Just like the kneelers have theirs. If enough people don’t care what they do enough to tune out, the leagues and owners will allow it. Even if it turns away many, now with sports gambling legal in states across the country it’s doubtful they will lose much viewership to make a difference, especially football. I don’t complain about it unless my post here is considered complaining. Rather I just won’t watch it or follow it anymore.
 
Wow, what a rant that article was. All over the place.

I will address one thing.

“ Baseball players have always been considered heroes to their fans, ”

Maybe that is the problem. They are not heroes and shouldn’t be treated as such. They are idolized and it is less of a sport and merely a business. Their opinions shouldn’t matter more than anyone else and their politics should stay out of the arena of the game. Period.

Just hit the ball, catch the ball, or kick the ball and stop all the nonsense.
 
edward_george1 said:
Conservative virtue signaling is still virtue signaling, and it makes your side look bad.
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Virtue signaling, if I understand it correctly, is showing concern for things you don’t really care about. Example: white priviledge kids protesting against white priviledge, or black lives matter, but only the life of that one individual, not the african american infants and toddlers being shot in Chicago daily.

My question to you is - what is conservative virtue signaling?
 
Adamek said:
My question to you is - what is conservative virtue signaling?
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When you ask that question it sounds really weird. I’m not trying to say it’s a bad question but I get a weird undertone vibe from it.

Like conservatives can’t?

Just apply the rules too virtue signalling the same as anywhere else.
 
I have always understood virtue signaling more as a form of self-righteousness.

It’s not so much that you don’t care about the issue, but that you’re more interested in public displays that boost your supposed moral superiority.
 
For the record, I should say that I don’t approve of people taking a knee during the anthem, and I said that I found it just as tiresome as people grousing about it for a reason. But I don’t happen to think that the real problem is taking a knee. I think it’s among the more visible and least consequential symptoms of a much greater societal problem, one that neither left nor right is immune to. If we fight over the symptoms, we may well ignore the disease.
 
Irishmom2 said:
I will address one thing.

“ Baseball players have always been considered heroes to their fans, ”

Maybe that is the problem. They are not heroes and shouldn’t be treated as such.
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Yeah, the last baseball player I considered a “hero” was Roberto Clemente in 1972 when he died on his way to deliver aid to earthquake victims in Nicaragua.

Nowadays I’m happy if they just manage to not swear in public or get arrested for anything. I will marvel at their mad skills when they make a great play, but “Heroes” they are not. There’s been way too many public scandals and tell-all books about what rotten personalities many of them had off the field.
 
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edward_george1 said:
For the record, I should say that I don’t approve of people taking a knee during the anthem, and I said that I found it just as tiresome as people grousing about it for a reason. But I don’t happen to think that the real problem is taking a knee. I think it’s among the more visible and least consequential symptoms of a much greater societal problem, one that neither left nor right is immune to. If we fight over the symptoms, we may well ignore the disease.
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I agree. I’m not a huge fan of kneeling either, but I’m tired about the constant controversy that’s been manufactured over it.

I say, it’s fine for someone to be outraged over it, but that person should instantly lose their right to call anyone else a “snowflake.”
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Yeah, the last baseball player I considered a “hero” was Roberto Clemente in 1972 when he died on his way to deliver aid to earthquake victims in Nicaragua.

Nowadays I’m happy if they just manage to not swear in public or get arrested for anything. I will marvel at their mad skills when they make a great play, but “Heroes” they are not. There’s been way too many public scandals and tell-all books about what rotten personalities many of them had off the field.
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Agreed on Clemente. I don’t have any baseball players I would call “heroes,” but I think there’s still some admirable players on the field. For example, Joey Votto is an all-around great guy, in my opinion.
 
edward_george1 said:
Honestly, the only thing that’s gotten more tiresome than athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem is people complaining about athletes taking a knee during the National Anthem. Why did this guy go through all this trouble to write this article, two whole weeks into the baseball season, when we’re already aware of what’s going on? And really he’s writing about how he’s not watching baseball anymore. Who cares?
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I wonder if his reason for writing the article is similar to your reason for writing your post?

Edit addition- I just read this again and want to make it clear that I do not mean to insinuate that you are virtue signaling. I mean to insinuate that something bothers him enough to write about it. 🙂
 
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Yes Clemente. He was my hero when I was a young kid. He just got his 3,000 hit milestone on his last at bat of the season a few months before the tragedy. Total class and great humanitarian.
 
Creating false equivalence serves to obscure the problem instead of shedding light on it. If there is any interest at all in attempting to define the problem, never mind solving it, such muddying of the waters should be avoided whenever possible.
 
Tis_Bearself said:
Yeah, the last baseball player I considered a “hero” was Roberto Clemente in 1972 when he died on his way to deliver aid to earthquake victims in Nicaragua.
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Yes. He is still one of my heroes. Not just for his skill on the ball field, but by how he lived his life.
 
I don’t understand why the national anthem is required to be shown before televised ballgames in the first place.

I don’t recall it being played on TV before most college football games in the past and I’m Ok with it. I tuned in to watch the ballgame, not to watch activists or to reconfirm my patriotism.
 
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Does anybody know what, exactly, the kneelers are protesting?
 
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