E-dating blast from the past, need perspective

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This is so awkward I don’t even know how to start.

I’ll just give you the facts: a whooping six years ago (I was 27 and she one year younger), on one of those Catholic dating portals I met an interesting person. Fellow somewhat disillusioned law grad, focus on trial law, with a creative side to her, in fact a rather serious amateur painter, where my own father was a pro, which obviously influenced who I am.

The fact she was familiar with something I did (my first and last great exploit in litigation, as time would later show), though she couldn’t connect the name, still had some significance — not even really in an ego-stroking way but more in the sense of a social link, I guess. It was a good feeling.

The ground did not shake, nor was there any tearjerking drama, in fact it was more along the lines of intellectual respect, though not devoid of an emotional touch. Rational, orderly emotional touch, therefore appealing in a spiritual sort of way. The lack of a strong chaotic impulse to act was actually good thing.

Similar to being around a girl that makes an obvious impression on you, makes you feel a sense of connection, activates your radar, but allows you to keep your brain as opposed to turning it into pudding. Or sort of like dating a girl who plays chess with you and you meet at 10 a.m. rather than p.m.

Plus, I liked the way she mentioned meeting up and seeing if we were to each other’s taste and if not then continuing simply as acquaintances — she actually managed to write that sort of thing in a natural way, without sounding awkward, and even in a way that felt good (peace, comfort, respect, that kind of ‘good’).

Heck, it was even comforting how she simply admitted fault and apologized for falling out of touch for a month and simply resumed conversation, though I certainly was made a bit cautious (along with a minor yellow flag that I’d overestimated as orange and still made too much of of anyway, a negligible thing but I was a bad case of romantic PTSD back then, a thoroughly wounded veteran of consistent failure with the ladies and epically hilarious).

It was played cool on both sides, though for some random reason we didn’t meet up and eventually we lost touch, regained it one month after only to lose it again when my overworked brain (I worked seriously sick hours back then) misregistered something and I ended up expecting a reply that had already arrived, or forgetting I hadn’t actually sent the draft of my own reply, something like that. At the stage we were at, it wouldn’t have been proper or natural to keep pressing, so I didn’t.

A year or two later I tried sending her a message and, by accident, also realized my cognitive screwup. The message ended up being unread, there were indications she had simply left the portal and the other one where we’d also talked, with her photos gone but profile not deleted, which usually suggests something a bit less than totally cutting ties with the place (e.g. intention to go off the radar for a longer while but not for good).

I forgot about her, though I had a moment of surprisingly strong emotion when I’d mistaken someone for her in the crowd, someone I’d even briefly talked to but fail to connected with a name and story, especially if it really was someone whose look I’d only known from a photo. Later, I forgot, though with regret.

Fast forward to tonight:

I check out new arrivals but see notification about two new visitors. There can be no mistake, I recognize the wording of the profile (which hadn’t changed at all), and the data match anyway.

And the sheer shock of realizing that she’s 32 now, where I’m 33. First thought that comes: things could have been brought to conclusion six years ago. It would now look like such a totally avoidable loss of time only through sheer stupidity if we even were to get together now. And the six lost years would make themselves felt.

Besides, well, I’m sure she’s no less an interesting and all-round worthy person than she’d been, but I, well, I was dashing handsome young lad back then, with aspirations and everything, eloquence and social graces and all, little of which now remain (several years in a solitary job in front of a computer does that to ya), and kinda plump. I’d struggle to put together a suit and lawyerly white shirt and squeezing myself into it, something utterly unthinkable six years ago, when I’d been the glam, beloved of court clerks and wanted to date by half the firm, or so my female roomie claimed (right after calling my haircut gay, to wit). The comparison made me burst out in sincere laughter that couldn’t stop for a longer while. Actually, still can’t.

Plus, meeting up (if even considered on her part at all) would be so awkward with so much pressure for evaluation and conclusion as generated by such a blast from the past. Awkward is my middle name, so nothing new under the sun, but still. I might as well write: ‘hi, how about we have a couple of vodkas and some uncooked beef tartare by the courthouse?,’ (precisely the meal I had after the last time I went there), wouldn’t make it any more awkward. (And I’ve half a mind to actually say it.)

So… this is so odd. I completely don’t know what to do or what’s going on. It’s like a surprise queen in the middle of a chessboard or a retrial out of nowhere.

Any advice? I’d pour myself a double Scotch to settle the dizziness and start thinking, but I’d promised not to drink for Lent and should be sick in bed with a bad cold anyway.
 
You’re overthinking the whole thing. There is nothing to be lost by making contact again. The only thing worse than wasting the last 6 years would be to throw away a (potential) lifetime together over that lost time. Those 6 years are gone, regardless of who you end up with.

I’d rather a nice Barolo with beef tartare, but each to their own.
 
You’re overthinking the whole thing. There is nothing to be lost by making contact again. The only thing worse than wasting the last 6 years would be to throw away a (potential) lifetime together over that lost time. Those 6 years are gone, regardless of who you end up with.

I’d rather a nice Barolo with beef tartare, but each to their own.
Right.

Plus, she’s probably fatter now and certainly 6 years older. Nothing stands still.

Ask her out and have some fun. Even, dare I say it, a “date”!

:eek:
 
Chev, I had an experience like yours, kinda. You can’t think of it as wasted years. You both became more of who you are now, by your own admission. So, you may actually be more suited or less suited now, but the only way you will know is if your try it. In my case, there were eight years “lost” in between.

But we’ll be married for 28 years this summer. 😉
 
Chev, I had an experience like yours, kinda. You can’t think of it as wasted years. You both became more of who you are now, by your own admission. So, you may actually be more suited or less suited now, but the only way you will know is if your try it. In my case, there were eight years “lost” in between.

But we’ll be married for 28 years this summer. 😉
Wow!
 
People always ask us where we met and we say high school. Then they ask, "oh, we’re you high school sweethearts? "

Nope. Just friends. And then friends that lost contact and met other people. But somehow met again 8 years later.
 
Dude, this is a no brainer. Don’t let anxiousness over expectations and self-doubt get in the way. Take a deep breath. She’s obviously into you. Just be ready for things not to work, don’t get your hopes up. Go in with a level head.
 
You’re overthinking the whole thing. There is nothing to be lost by making contact again.
How about freedom? 😉 I’m still licking my wounds, day by day, trying to forget all of the significant (she-)ghosts of the past, some of whom are still a strong memory. Part of the reason I turned to work those six years ago.
The only thing worse than wasting the last 6 years would be to throw away a (potential) lifetime together over that lost time.
True.
Those 6 years are gone, regardless of who you end up with.
Also.
I’d rather a nice Barolo with beef tartare, but each to their own.
It’s more a matter of getting something with the vodka. There was that ugly pro se I lost on appeal despite the opposing counsel practically going on record agreeing with everything I said. Six shots forward (with an ex politician, left wing actually) I realized I’d had no breakfast… I so miss the life. (She probably still has it, but who knows. Perhaps she makes a living drafting wills and checking titles.)
Plus, she’s probably fatter now and certainly 6 years older. Nothing stands still.
True. Though I wish my weight did.
Ask her out and have some fun.
Yeah, well, that’s what the vodka is for.
Even, dare I say it, a “date”!
Ugh, I’m sure we’ll set a date when the case is ripe for hearing.

I usually prefer the term ‘appointment’.
Chev, I had an experience like yours, kinda. You can’t think of it as wasted years. You both became more of who you are now, by your own admission.
Side-tracked more like. A source of embarrassment really.
So, you may actually be more suited or less suited now, but the only way you will know is if your try it.
In state or federal?

Just kidding.

(Because I’m not in the US.)
Chev, I had an experience like yours, kinda. You can’t think of it as wasted years. You both became more of who you are now, by your own admission. So, you may actually be more suited or less suited now, but the only way you will know is if your try it. In my case, there were eight years “lost” in between.
That’s admittedly quite a gap. I once attended a wedding like that (officiated by my favourite law professor, who happened to be a Catholic priest that taught secular law). Met a bunch of could have beens and wound up in a park I’d gone to with another, plus someone mentioned another two or three or something on the phone, I don’t remember (it’s the age, I’m sure). It was the Day of Ten Exes (and could have beens).
But we’ll be married for 28 years this summer. 😉
I won’t be original but: wow too!
People always ask us where we met and we say high school. Then they ask, "oh, we’re you high school sweethearts? "

Nope. Just friends. And then friends that lost contact and met other people. But somehow met again 8 years later.
I have a similar story, though no happy end (naturally).
Why would you assume she’s gotten fatter? :confused:
Newton’s fourth law: the weight of a body older than 30 gravitates upward, not downward.
Dude, this is a no brainer. Don’t let anxiousness over expectations and self-doubt get in the way. Take a deep breath. She’s obviously into you.
Didn’t seem that way, the last time she seemed anything. 😃
Just be ready for things not to work, don’t get your hopes up. Go in with a level head.
It was impossible not to keep a level head around that woman, she had a unique gift, I guess. Or perhaps it was a unique something else. I don’t remember. With age, memory fades.
The OP is feeling self-conscious because he’s gotten fatter and older.
You forgot, ‘and more socially inept by the day.’ 🙂
Most people don’t weight the same at 33 that they did at 27.😉
Around thirty men sometimes get thicker without really getting fatter (happened to my father too, so I guess I was in line for some estate). Then they get narrower without necessarily getting thinner around sixty. Doesn’t change the fact my long-unworn suits no longer fit well. To think I moved like I’d been born in the thing!
 
Just ask her if she wants to get together and catch-up. Something informal, no dinner date. If you let another six years go by… talk about regrets.
 
Yeah, well, that’s what the vodka is for.

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I usually prefer the term ‘appointment’.

[snip]

It was impossible not to keep a level head around that woman, she had a unique gift, I guess. Or perhaps it was a unique something else. I don’t remember. With age, memory fades.

You forgot, ‘and more socially inept by the day.’ 🙂

Around thirty men sometimes get thicker without really getting fatter (happened to my father too, so I guess I was in line for some estate). Then they get narrower without necessarily getting thinner around sixty. Doesn’t change the fact my long-unworn suits no longer fit well. To think I moved like I’d been born in the thing!
A few points:
  1. There’s WAY too much alcohol in your posts. It’s like an old girlfriend you’re talking about.
  2. In English “appointment” is for situations like the following: a business meeting, a doctor’s appointment, a dental appointment, etc. It’s almost never social or romantic.
  3. If you are charmed by this woman, it’s quite likely that you are charming with her and have good chemistry.
 
What do you have to lose that wasn’t already lost for six years?

Six years ago, I was great friends with this cute girl from the town over. Very Catholic, very kind. We fell away for six years due to school. We started talking again about half a year ago, and now we are dating.

Worst case: you end up right back to where you’ve been for six years.
Better case: you reconnect with a good friend.
Best case: some romance stuff happens.

👍 Good luck! 👍
 
With small modifications, the Original Post would make a great short story. I’m not being facetious at all. I enjoyed reading it. The story begins with romance, longing, and regret. The author doesn’t tie up all the loose ends, forcing the reader into a particular view of the future, but brings the main character (and the reader) to a critical point, balanced between despair and hope.

I would choose hope.

As Irishmom2 wrote, the six years are not wasted but have made you the person you are today, which is better in some ways. Perhaps you are more humble, more thoughtful, and less attached to your career.

You have put on weight, but you can lose it, or at least firm up a bit. Who knows? Maybe you and she can work out together, or otherwise encourage each other to take up a healthier lifestyle. You could similarly look for ways to improve your spiritual health.

I wish you all the best.
 
I can see why you were drawn to law school:) Don’t litigate this, live it. Take a chance. Good luck. Best, Joe. PS: 33 years old, you’re still a kid. You have lots of time don’t be afraid, don’t rush. Life doesn’t have a docket. To put it in perspective, I regularly wear clothes older than you. Enjoy every second. Go for it.
 
A few points:
  1. There’s WAY too much alcohol in your posts. It’s like an old girlfriend you’re talking about.
I’ve had nicer old girlfriends than that. All of them were nice. Up to a point, that is.
  1. In English “appointment” is for situations like the following: a business meeting, a doctor’s appointment, a dental appointment, etc. It’s almost never social or romantic.
And that’s precisely the point.
  1. If you are charmed by this woman,
Wouldn’t be the word I’d use, but there is obviously a bit of a tender association there, mentally. (If not enough to get totally mental.)
it’s quite likely that you are charming with her and have good chemistry.
Unfortunately (though I’m pretty sure that’s for my own greater good!) empirical research suggests that if I’m interested, chances are the woman isn’t. 😃 Then again, she’s on written record confirming I wasn’t on the denied persons list.
What do you have to lose that wasn’t already lost for six years?
Illusions mostly, I guess. Things that could have happened, could have been done together, years that could have been spent in a specific way, watching life unfold and the other person grow and change. People get married and divorced in shorter time spans.

And, in the unlikely event of a terminal relationship, I mean, marriage, eventually transpiring, the thought I had shortened it by a couple of the best years that won’t be be coming back. Which was obviously mutual fault, facts-wise, but that doesn’t help it much.
Six years ago, I was great friends with this cute girl from the town over. Very Catholic, very kind. We fell away for six years due to school. We started talking again about half a year ago, and now we are dating.
Hoping for the best for both of you!
Worst case: you end up right back to where you’ve been for six years.
Better case: you reconnect with a good friend.
Best case: some romance stuff happens.
True. That one would be viable as a friend.
👍 Good luck! 👍
Well, if there’s bad luck, I’ll have another epic story to tell to someone else’s grandchildren. Probably more problem what if there’s good luck.
With small modifications, the Original Post would make a great short story. I’m not being facetious at all. I enjoyed reading it. The story begins with romance, longing, and regret. The author doesn’t tie up all the loose ends, forcing the reader into a particular view of the future, but brings the main character (and the reader) to a critical point, balanced between despair and hope.
Thank you, I’ve been practicing. I secretely hope to become the John Grisham of failed dating stories one day.
As Irishmom2 wrote, the six years are not wasted but have made you the person you are today, which is better in some ways. Perhaps you are more humble, more thoughtful, and less attached to your career.
I don’t think twice about it with newly met people, but with someone who knew me in a former life and then popped out of nowhere, it would be different. Loss is more pain and shame than never having had something.
You have put on weight, but you can lose it, or at least firm up a bit. Who knows?
Both are already on the schedule. Wouldn’t have happened had it not been for night shifts and other stress of the new job, I guess, but I needed the money. Six years of working exclusively from home and not talking to people is more permanent damage, though. I’ve lost the spring in the step, glow in the eye and everything else. Again, not much a thought with newmets but difficult with someone who knew me at a different time.
I wish you all the best.
Thanks.
Just ask her if she wants to get together and catch-up. Something informal, no dinner date. If you let another six years go by… talk about regrets.
Yeah, definitely informal. The point of the vodkas by the courthouse was just that, not romantic, just hanging out together to talk, catching up in the usual way in the learned profession, where tough-as-nails ambulance chasers, including the ones with varnished nails, don’t exactly sip cosmos and don’t stop at the second or third round either.

The problem is, we live in different cities. I could always google up a nice venue in hers and just simply name a day and hour at random and steer the conversation away from acknowledging the journey, but it would inevitably still linger on in the background, making things less than really casual and a bigger deal than they should be, whether I always went there or were she to come over from time to time instead, especially at short intervals, whereas in the same city you can even meet up twice a week and make nothing of it.
I can see why you were drawn to law school:)
Almost chose archaeology at the last moment. Always wondered what if. My crim trial pal secretely dreams of architecture.
To put it in perspective, I regularly wear clothes older than you.
So do I. 😃 I even own a tailored jacket that’s older than I am!

(Okay, less regularly.)
 
You’re overthinking the whole thing. There is nothing to be lost by making contact again. The only thing worse than wasting the last 6 years would be to throw away a (potential) lifetime together over that lost time. Those 6 years are gone, regardless of who you end up with.
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^ This. You lose nothing by trying. Go for it, and good luck! 🙂
 
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