Easter vigil liturgy Q

[CathConvert2013]

Somewhere in the beginning of the mass, the earth is referred to as xxxx days old. Why is this, if the Catholic Church believes (or allows belief) in evolution? My dh is very much an agnostic and anti-organized religion. He is holding a lot of these details against me during arguments.

 

[Chatter163]

I don’t recall anywhere in the Easter Vigil liturgy that says how many days old the earth is.

 

[Granum_Frumenti]

I don’t recall anywhere in the Easter Vigil liturgy that says how many days old the earth is.

I thought of the Christmas Proclamation.

How to understand the “Christmas Proclamation”
by Jimmy Akin Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:52 AM

In particular:

1. From the Creation of the World

The proclamation first dates the birth of Christ relative to the creation of the world:

–SNIP–

The traditional version of the proclamation is much more specific: It says “In the five thousand one hundred and ninety-ninth year of the creation of the world.”

–SNIP–

The currently approved English translation, however, avoids mentioning any specific number of years.

[For example, from the website of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, http://www.usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/liturgical-year/christmas/christmas-proclamation.cfm"]"The Nativity of our Lord Jesus Christ from the Roman Martyrology.”]

CathConvert2013, is this it?

 

[OraLabora]

Catholics don’t hold to a literalist interpretation of scripture.

 

[CathConvert2013]

Catholics don’t hold to a literalist interpretation of scripture.

I didn’t think so. I went through RCIA in 2012-13 and we went over this. My dh’s dad believes literally in the bible except for john 6 where we are told to eat the flesh of Jesus.

I think we have a very traditional parish and the deacon sings the exultet. This year the seminarian did it. Latin is rarely used. Perhaps it was in the Christmas liturgy… But my dh remembered it being not too long ago.

 

[oldburkes]

I love hearing the Christmas Proclamation at Midnight Mass. Who’s to say it is or isn’t accurate anyway? If we engross ourselves in details of dates, the only thing we could say for sure is that Passover followed the phases of the moon.
Michael Rood of “A Rood Awakening” will satsfy any desire to doubt every celebration the Church commemorates. I think it’s a waste of time on semantics.
My :twocents:

 

[CathConvert2013]

He says it was at the Christmas mass we attended. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[oldburkes]

Cath, when I reread my post, it sounded a little edgy. I wasn’t growling at you.
At least I didn’t mean it that way.
Welcome to the Church, and I’ll pray for you, and for your DH to see the beauty of it as well.

 

[CathConvert2013]

No problem! I pray for that too.

 

[corsair]

Perhaps my age is showing … but, what do you mean by “DH”? To me it means “designated hitter”. My brain must be numb today. Sorry

 

[oldburkes]

Perhaps my age is showing … but, what do you mean by “DH”? To me it means “designated hitter”. My brain must be numb today. Sorry

Corsair, I understand it to mean ‘darling husband’. I hope that’s right, or I might be in trouble somewhere.

 

[twf]

I have never heard this in any liturgy, but if it is present in the original Latin text, the Church would understand it in a symbolic manner. Throughout Scripture symbolic periods of time are used with theological, but not necessarily historical, significance. For example, Scripture speaks of the “thousand year reign of Christ”. According to the Fathers of the Church, we, that is to say, all Catholics from the time of the apostles down to the present day, are living within the “thousand year reign of Christ”. Historically speaking, this “thousand year reign” has already been over 2000 years. The “thousand years” is taken symbolically and not literally…much of Scripture and the liturgy use poetical devices to convey theological truths. The sacred liturgy is not an engineering manual, but more of a divine love song.