Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Saints in Sui Juris Churches?

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Do Eastern Catholics venerate the saints, who have never been in public communion with Rome? :byzsoc:
 
Yes, but so do many Roman Catholics. For example, the newest Doctor of the Universal Church, St. Gregory of Narek, as well as St. Isaac of Nineveh, and more. Sainthood transcends jurisdictional bounds, however publicly it is sometimes prudent not to univeraally venerate a saint that was virulently anti-Papal or anti-Roman or even theologically misunderstood unless this can be overcome. St. Augustine is getting somewhat of a renaissance in the East lately. He might not have been publicly venerated earlier, or even on a less grand scale but is today being reevaluated with Eastern lenses.
 
Yes, but so do many Roman Catholics. For example, the newest Doctor of the Universal Church, St. Gregory of Narek, as well as St. Isaac of Nineveh, and more. Sainthood transcends jurisdictional bounds, however publicly it is sometimes prudent not to univeraally venerate a saint that was virulently anti-Papal or anti-Roman or even theologically misunderstood unless this can be overcome. St. Augustine is getting somewhat of a renaissance in the East lately. He might not have been publicly venerated earlier, or even on a less grand scale but is today being reevaluated with Eastern lenses.
Thanks. So, I see, with Gregory Narek the ground was his mentioning in Martyrologium. Isaac of Nineveh consciously wrote on non-controversial topics. And Augustine lived long before the East-West schism.

Hm…:hmmm:
 
Yes, but so do many Roman Catholics. For example, the newest Doctor of the Universal Church, St. Gregory of Narek, as well as St. Isaac of Nineveh, and more. Sainthood transcends jurisdictional bounds, however publicly it is sometimes prudent not to univeraally venerate a saint that was virulently anti-Papal or anti-Roman or even theologically misunderstood unless this can be overcome. St. Augustine is getting somewhat of a renaissance in the East lately. He might not have been publicly venerated earlier, or even on a less grand scale but is today being reevaluated with Eastern lenses.
So, is the issue of recognition of a saint decided individually for every single one?
 
Yes, but so do many Roman Catholics. For example, the newest Doctor of the Universal Church, St. Gregory of Narek, as well as St. Isaac of Nineveh, and more. Sainthood transcends jurisdictional bounds, however publicly it is sometimes prudent not to univeraally venerate a saint that was virulently anti-Papal or anti-Roman or even theologically misunderstood unless this can be overcome. St. Augustine is getting somewhat of a renaissance in the East lately. He might not have been publicly venerated earlier, or even on a less grand scale but is today being reevaluated with Eastern lenses.
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Our Saints are defined by their deeds but also location. For example St. Sedonia brought Christianity to the Republic of Georgia on the Black Sea. If my son didn’t marry a Georgian girl, I never would have heard of her. St. Patrick is Ireland. Europe is so old and our church’s head is Rome, may of our Saints are European. We have St. Paul Neuman, The sweet nun who started schools in the Phila area where I grew up. I am tired now and having a senior moment. I can see her. She wias from Drexel. I’ll recall her after I sleep. We have an Indian Saint Takawitha.(spelling) We share St. John Chrysostom. I tried to explain to her this geographical idea and about St.John but there is some division here which saddens me. In 1500cc, Rome sent Templer knights to slaughter the Orthodox priests and demolish churches. I think they may use the gnostic gospels.I am going over there next spring. 21hours of traveling. I plan to find out. It saddens me.
Excuse me for jumping in. In Christ’s love, tweedlealice 🙂
 
Hi
Our Saints are defined by their deeds but also location. For example St. Sedonia brought Christianity to the Republic of Georgia on the Black Sea. If my son didn’t marry a Georgian girl, I never would have heard of her. St. Patrick is Ireland. Europe is so old and our church’s head is Rome, may of our Saints are European. We have St. Paul Neuman, The sweet nun who started schools in the Phila area where I grew up. I am tired now and having a senior moment. I can see her. She wias from Drexel. I’ll recall her after I sleep. We have an Indian Saint Takawitha.(spelling) We share St. John Chrysostom. I tried to explain to her this geographical idea and about St.John but there is some division here which saddens me. In 1500cc, Rome sent Templer knights to slaughter the Orthodox priests and demolish churches. I think they may use the gnostic gospels.I am going over there next spring. 21hours of traveling. I plan to find out. It saddens me.
Excuse me for jumping in. In Christ’s love, tweedlealice 🙂
There were no Templar knights in1500s. 🤷
 
The Melkite Eparchy of Newton’s menaion commemorates St Photios the Great on February 6, St Symeon the New Theologian on October 12, and St Gregory Palamas on November 14 and on the second Sunday of Lent.
 
I know some Byzantines who venerate Saint Alexis Toth.
I’m sympathetic (or like to think I am) toward Orthodox former-Catholics in general and Fr. Toth in particular … But I don’t think I would venerate him as a saint, as a matter of principle. (Just like I wouldn’t venerate an ex-EO if I were EO.)

But that’s just my two cents. 🙂
 
I’m sympathetic (or like to think I am) toward Orthodox former-Catholics in general and Fr. Toth in particular … But I don’t think I would venerate him as a saint, as a matter of principle. (Just like I wouldn’t venerate an ex-EO if I were EO.)

But that’s just my two cents. 🙂
Is he on the actual EC calendar(s)?
 
For Maronites (who especially insist they’ve been historically Chalcedonian), St. Jacob of Sarug (to whom the ending of every single office and mass part called a Yaquboyo or Bo’utho dMor Yaqub is attributed) openly wrote about his dislike of Chalcedon and how he’s a miaphysite.
 
For Maronites (who especially insist they’ve been historically Chalcedonian), St. Jacob of Sarug (to whom the ending of every single office and mass part called a Yaquboyo or Bo’utho dMor Yaqub is attributed) openly wrote about his dislike of Chalcedon and how he’s a miaphysite.
I think it was in 680-681 A.D. (Constantinople III) that both the Melkites and the Maronites adopted Christ in two natures. St. Jacob of Sarug died in 521 A.D. Council of Chalcedon was in 451 A.D.
 
Tweedlealice, not to tease, but Paul Newman was a famous actor. 😃

You are thinking of Saint John Neuman, Abp of Philadelphia.

You are then confusing him with St. Katharine Drexel, who was a sister from Philadelphia (usually a sweet heart, but she could be ornery when she wanted to be).

She wasn’t from Drexel Hill by the way (I live in Lansdowne, right on the suburban border of that small town), but Drexel Hill was named after her wealthy family (like Drexel University). She did visit Drexel Hill and stay there often though throughout her childhood (specifically on what is now the campus of my old high school).

Philadelphia is blessed to have two canonized saints. Not that many cities can boast that. Unfortunately, Cool Hand Luke is not among our patrons. 😉
 
Are there any protestant saints?
All baptized infants under the age of reason. Others that did not defect from the Catholic Church that have not committed mortal sins or have confessed them with perfect contrition.
 
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