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Miguel25
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What the take on stigmata by the eastern orthodox? have they had any case in their tradition?
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Brucejlb
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Stigmata (singular stigma) is a term used by members of the Christian faith to describe bodily marks, sores, or sensations of pain in locations corresponding to the crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ, such as the hands, wrists, and feet.
The term originates from the line at the end of Saint Paul’s Letter to the Galatians where he says, “I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.” Stigmata is the plural of the Greek word … stigma, meaning a mark, tattoo,[1] or brand such as might have been used for identification of an animal or slave. An individual bearing stigmata is referred to as a stigmatic or a stigmatist.
The term originates from the line at the end of Saint Paul’s Letter to the Galatians where he says, “I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.” Stigmata is the plural of the Greek word … stigma, meaning a mark, tattoo,[1] or brand such as might have been used for identification of an animal or slave. An individual bearing stigmata is referred to as a stigmatic or a stigmatist.
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Mary888
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I don’t know if anyone who is a saint in EO had it but I know there is no attention given to it in itself.
According to Orthodox tradition no one is fully a saint while alive, so receiving a sign on body while alive may be a sign from God or from the Deceiver to ignite our pride and make us stop looking for God by giving us a sign too obvious that we are following Christ. The person being tempted may be the one who receives such a sign.
Words and actions of an alleged living saint are more important than any physical sign. Someone performing miracles would attract attention for example but only if their words are considered godly the miracles would be considered to have been from God. Otherwise it may be deceit.
According to tradition in EO only God completes the sainthood for someone after death. In EO only incorruptibility of deceased bodies is considered a physical bodily sign from God. In addition of incorruptibility there must be myrrh observed on the body and no foul smell at all. Other physical signs we are advised to ignore.
According to Orthodox tradition no one is fully a saint while alive, so receiving a sign on body while alive may be a sign from God or from the Deceiver to ignite our pride and make us stop looking for God by giving us a sign too obvious that we are following Christ. The person being tempted may be the one who receives such a sign.
Words and actions of an alleged living saint are more important than any physical sign. Someone performing miracles would attract attention for example but only if their words are considered godly the miracles would be considered to have been from God. Otherwise it may be deceit.
According to tradition in EO only God completes the sainthood for someone after death. In EO only incorruptibility of deceased bodies is considered a physical bodily sign from God. In addition of incorruptibility there must be myrrh observed on the body and no foul smell at all. Other physical signs we are advised to ignore.
Tis_Bearself
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This is also the teaching in Catholic tradition. “Sainthood” means the person is in Heaven. Obviously this doesn’t happen until after death.According to Orthodox tradition no one is fully a saint while alive
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Miguel25
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Nothing to do with my question Sir. I appreciate your explanation but what the orthodox has to say?
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Spyridon
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@Mary888 is an Eastern Orthodox Christian and she answered your question.
Stigmata is a Western Christian phenomena which is foreign to the Eastern tradition.
Stigmata is a Western Christian phenomena which is foreign to the Eastern tradition.
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Brucejlb
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More traditions that divide religions.
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twf
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With the exception of Myrna, who I believe is Melkite.
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Miguel25
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This is very weird that only happens in the west God’s gifts have no borders
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