Eastern Vs. Western priests

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This is kind of a depressing situation for me… Over the past several month I’ve been outed as a homosexual in one of America’s most conservative Catholic universities (I’m chaste tho), i’ve lost my fiancee (a girl) of three years who was going to marry me after graduation, and I’ve incurred the wrath of my Greek Melkite father who’s from Palestine and has old fashion Arabic style views about homosexuals (even celibate Catholic ones)

Meanwhile My Quaker mother is celebrating the fact I’m a homosexual at the top of her lungs while my father is now chronically depressed and convinced I’m damned to hell because I’m not getting married and giving him grandchildren…

When two different therapists (Eastern Catholic therapists) told him my SSA couldn’t be cured or that I couldn’t go straight he flipped. He runs and grabs his priest from the Melkite Catholic Church in my town… This priest is an old gizzard from Syria who’s convinced that I’m a sodomite…

While this priest is shoutng how I’m sodomite and how I need to repent I run and get my priest from my home parish along with the priest from my local courage group… Both priests are latin catholics…

Now this crazy Melkite priest brings in the heavy artillery brings in his assistant priest or whatever the heck the melkites call that…

So now my dad and me are fighting with each other… And these western priests are going at it with the eastern priests…

It’s getting ugly… My dad and the melkites argue I’m Greek Melkite Catholic because of my dad who’s been Melkite his entire life…

But my priests argue I’m latin rite because i was baptized and raised in the latin church…

It’s ugly… My father is convinced that unless I become heterosexual and marry (he’s already courting his friends’ single daughters in a typical middle eastern fashion) that I’m somehow damned to hell…

Well my priests have contacted the Bishop and there’s going to be some kind of intercession… It’s ugly…
 
I can’t speak to which tradition you “belong” but you are in my prayers. :hug1:
 
i will pray very very very much for you, maybe someone here can give you advise, all i have is to pray. that isnt so little in the first place though.
 
mro said:
This is kind of a depressing situation for me… Over the past several month I’ve been outed as a homosexual in one of America’s most conservative Catholic universities (I’m chaste tho), i’ve lost my fiancee (a girl) of three years who was going to marry me after graduation, and I’ve incurred the wrath of my Greek Melkite father who’s from Palestine and has old fashion Arabic style views about homosexuals (even celibate Catholic ones)

Meanwhile My Quaker mother is celebrating the fact I’m a homosexual at the top of her lungs while my father is now chronically depressed and convinced I’m damned to hell because I’m not getting married and giving him grandchildren…

When two different therapists (Eastern Catholic therapists) told him my SSA couldn’t be cured or that I couldn’t go straight he flipped. He runs and grabs his priest from the Melkite Catholic Church in my town… This priest is an old gizzard from Syria who’s convinced that I’m a sodomite…

While this priest is shoutng how I’m sodomite and how I need to repent I run and get my priest from my home parish along with the priest from my local courage group… Both priests are latin catholics…

Now this crazy Melkite priest brings in the heavy artillery brings in his assistant priest or whatever the heck the melkites call that…

So now my dad and me are fighting with each other… And these western priests are going at it with the eastern priests…

It’s getting ugly… My dad and the melkites argue I’m Greek Melkite Catholic because of my dad who’s been Melkite his entire life…

But my priests argue I’m latin rite because i was baptized and raised in the latin church…

It’s ugly… My father is convinced that unless I become heterosexual and marry (he’s already courting his friends’ single daughters in a typical middle eastern fashion) that I’m somehow damned to hell…

Well my priests have contacted the Bishop and there’s going to be some kind of intercession… It’s ugly…
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I don’t know…when I read this I do see you have a tough situation. But honestly…I feel a lot worse for your ex. I hope it works out for you bud.
 
I will pray for you.

Your Melkite priests are correct. Your Church enrollment canonically goes by your father. It does not matter where you received your Sacraments of Initiation nor what Church you were raised in.

You could work on getting a canonical transfer but with these issues going on I would wait on that.

Having said this, what does it matter what Church you canonically belong to? You are free to worship in any Catholic church you wish.
 
I’ll pray for you, too. As I understand it, it’s homosexual acts that are sinful, not having SSA. I also understand that the door to hell is locked from the inside. God loves you so so very much, so much He sent his Son to die a horrible death for all our sins. You hang on to that Love. hugs you :hug1:
 
It just bugs me because the Greek Melkite Church has to follow what the Vatican has taught on homosexuality… Instead both priests and my father are letting middle eastern culture and values dictate how to deal with my situation…

Heck I’m not even Arab like my father… I got my looks from my mother who’s irish…
 
mro said:
It just bugs me because the Greek Melkite Church has to follow what the Vatican has taught on homosexuality… Instead both priests and my father are letting middle eastern culture and values dictate how to deal with my situation…

Heck I’m not even Arab like my father… I got my looks from my mother who’s irish…
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The Latin priests also have to follow what the Vatican has taught on homosexuality – as should you if you are Catholic.

From your opening post:
Meanwhile My Quaker mother is celebrating the fact I’m a homosexual at the top of her lungs while my father is now chronically depressed and convinced I’m damned to hell because I’m not getting married and giving him grandchildren…
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Why would your Irish Quaker mother be celebrating the fact that you are homosexual? :confused:
 
Nita said:
The Latin priests also have to follow what the Vatican has taught on homosexuality – as should you if you are Catholic.

From your opening post:

Why would your Irish Quaker mother be celebrating the fact that you are homosexual? :confused:
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Quakers are supportive of homosexuality… They affirm gay couples…
 
mro said:
Quakers are supportive of homosexuality… They affirm gay couples…
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Why?
Is this the Quaker denomination as a whole, or just your mother’s local congregation?
Do you know what they base this support on? What Scripture? (Or do they not regard Scripture as the final authority?)
 
Nita said:
Why?
Is this the Quaker denomination as a whole, or just your mother’s local congregation?
Do you know what they base this support on? What Scripture? (Or do they not regard Scripture as the final authority?)
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The Society of Friends or the Friends General Conference is a branch of liberal Christianity (they always have been liberal)…

They affirm gay couples in the United States, Canada, and the UK…

They’re universalists essentially… They don’t believe that the Bible applies in modern society… Kind of like reform judaism believes that jewish law is no longer applicable to modern times…
 
I’m so sorry you are going through all of this. My only advice for you situation is to remain humble in your dealings with these ppl. Don’t bite back at their attacks and keep silence when you feel it necessary. You can never go wrong with humility. You are in my prayers.
 
mro said:
The Society of Friends or the Friends General Conference is a branch of liberal Christianity (they always have been liberal)…

They affirm gay couples in the United States, Canada, and the UK…

They’re universalists essentially… They don’t believe that the Bible applies in modern society… Kind of like reform judaism believes that jewish law is no longer applicable to modern times…
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Too bad. The storm winds are blowing and one by one the houses not built on the rock seem to be caving in and falling. (cf Mt. 7:24-27)
 
mro said:
It just bugs me because the Greek Melkite Church has to follow what the Vatican has taught on homosexuality… Instead both priests and my father are letting middle eastern culture and values dictate how to deal with my situation…

Heck I’m not even Arab like my father… I got my looks from my mother who’s irish…
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Please do not mistake you father’s and these priests’ opinions as speaking for the whole Greek Melkite Church.
 
All in all I think that these priests are trying to do the best for you. They are trying to save you and I think that shows alot.

Would you rather have them say “Oh, he’s gay cast him out of your family and of the community.” No, I think its nice that they are trying to help you and your father deal with this.

I have much respect for you, because you chose Jesus Chirst instead of what your flesh desires. Remember your flesh will lead you to sin, so chose what your soul desires which is GOD.
 
The only thing my father has done in my best interest was leave the Palestine when he married my mother who was carrying me at the time… And both Melkite priests are senile old men who barely speak english (Lord only knows how they got a visa to get into the country)… I’ve lost my respect for the Melkite Church and my father… They scare the living day lights out of me… 😦 Calling me a sodomite and stuff when I haven’t even strayed from the Church’s teachings…

I’ve already figured a loophole…

I’ve entered RCIA at my latin parish… I’ll just get reconfirmed in a latin church… Case solved… 👍
 
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