EDITED: Sacraments--Anointing of the Sick

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CB_Catholic said:
The biggest shift, IMO, is that the Church doesn’t want you to wait until you’re almost dead before you receive it. (Purely from a lay perspective).
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I don’t know. It is now given to people with serious and chronic illnesses who are not in immediate danger of death, e.g. we had a Diocesan Mass for Our Lady of Lourdes where dozens were annointed, but family members tell me how (before VII), they were given the Sacrament before any surgery, however minor, and even before labour and delivery (albeit a C-Section), so hardly at death’s door! I know anaesthetics carry a risk, but nevertheless…
 
Old age in itself is enough reason to receive this Sacrament, it is considered preparation for the death in long term.

Can. 1004 §1. The anointing of the sick can be administered to a member of the faithful who, having reached the use of reason, begins to be in danger due to sickness or old age.

§2. This sacrament can be repeated if the sick person, having recovered, again becomes gravely ill or if the condition becomes more grave during the same illness.

Can. 1005 This sacrament is to be administered in a case of doubt whether the sick person has attained the use of reason, is dangerously ill, or is dead.

Can. 1006 This sacrament is to be conferred on the sick who at least implicitly requested it when they were in control of their faculties.

Can. 1007 The anointing of the sick is not to be conferred upon those who persevere obstinately in manifest grave sin.
 
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When a priest is administering a sacrament, it is his business, indeed his responsibility, as the steward of the sacrament, to ensure that it is administered appropriately. It might not be anyone else’s business, but it is the priest’s.

It’s not the “sacrament of anyone who feels like walking up at the moment”; it’s the Sacrament of the Sick.
 
Batfink said:
I don’t know. It is now given to people with serious and chronic illnesses who are not in immediate danger of death, e.g. we had a Diocesan Mass for Our Lady of Lourdes where dozens were annointed, but family members tell me how (before VII), they were given the Sacrament before any surgery, however minor, and even before labour and delivery (albeit a C-Section), so hardly at death’s door! I know anaesthetics carry a risk, but nevertheless…
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Yes. It’s not as if we have this abrupt change after Vatican II where beforehand, one had to be at death’s door, there was a long development even before the Council leading in this direction.
 
OurLadyPerpHelp said:
I’ve seen anointing of the sick to who ever wanted it at the time. No mention of being sick or anything.
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How do you know that the priest was not aware of their illnesses? It is not necessary that everyone else be aware of the illnessess of others in order to receive the sacrament.
 
zab said:
How do you know that the priest was not aware of their illnesses? It is not necessary that everyone else be aware of the illnessess of others in order to receive the sacrament.
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Let’s just say I knew and leave it at that.
 
Joe_Kelley said:
It is desirable, but not essential, to have a community for any sacrament except Confession. .
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the community is represented in the celebration of all sacraments, whether or not they are during Mass, or even when only two or three are present. In confession the priest represents Christ and also the people, the Body of Christ so the reconciliation dimension is fully present as well as the forgiveness and absolution dimension. that is because the grace of all sacraments flows from the Eucharist, the sacrament that forms the communion of the people, the Body of Christ.
 
zab said:
No, I won’t leave it at that. Why should I take your word that you know everything that the priest knows about others in his parish.
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I’ve been advised to speak to the post, not the person. If you continue with this line of questioning I’ll have to add you to my ignore list.
 
ByzCath said:
We still have Extreme Unction, also known as the Last Rites, it consistes of Confession, Eucharist, and the Annointing of the Sick.

What we have realized after Vatican II is that Annointing of the Sick can be done outside of the Last Rites for those with a serious illness or those who are to undergo a serious surgery.
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Kinda what I said in a previous post… I was just commenting on how it was called… 😉 God bless…
 
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