Emotions and Reconciliation

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Hi, I’m new to this site and forum and so glad to be here! Many issues have already been answered for me here! God bless you all!

I’m a former Catholic-turned-agnostic-turned-unofficial/superficial-Protestant (takes breath), who has recently been drawn back home to the One True Church - by what I feel is the unmistakable, overwhelmingly wonderful grace of God. (I’m 28 years old, for the record).

A few days ago, I wrote down that list to take with me to Confession; I wrote it with total heart and sincerity. I had no fears, except of not being able to go soon enough; I could hardly wait to confess and be forgiven.

On my day of Reconciliation (which was today, incidentally), I deliberately skipped breakfast, got annoyed by some bad weather and delayed public transport, and so felt I was running against the clock. I really wanted to make this Confession.

So, eventually, when I made it to the confessional stall, I was still somewhat irritated by the weather and delayed transport (even though I was well ahead of time before Mass) - in other words, not exactly the appropriate state of mind and heart to be in for Confession.

I “read” my list, and rushed it a little with the good intention of not keeping the priest too long (I know this was probably a non-issue, esp. considering my long-absence from the Church) - but my reading was fairly flat, I think. I elaborated honestly, though, and answered all of the priest’s questions as best, honestly and reverently as I could. He was very understanding and helpful; we even briefly discussed some Catholic theological literature that would be good for me to meditate on (rather than just simply read, as I often did as a Protestant).

But, here’s the thing… I’m not quite sure that I was being fully genuine in heart during this Confession. Certainly I didn’t feel opposed to what I was saying, but neither did I feel very passionate about much of it either. And I do feel utterly passionately about Christ and the Church in general. The Confession went quite well as far as what I said, and how the priest responded; and (after all) he did absolve me of all my sins in the name of God. However, I’m concerned that my inner-feelings (or lack thereof) at the time may have somehow nullified this absolution. As Gal 6:7 states, “Be not deceived, God is not mocked.”

I’m aware that it’s probably gravely sinful to even doubt the effect of absolution, but I am worried nevertheless. Should I repeat these very-same sins at my next confession (a re-attempt, if you will), or explain my general concern? Or simply pray in private and move on? No doubt: I was worried the moment I left the stall, and prayed as earnestly as I could in the pews, and stayed for the Mass, and received the Host with hope. But some guilt and uncertainty remained throughout, and still does to some extent (though it fluctuates; I trust in the Lord that He loves me regardless).

Am I underestimating how absolution works? Knowing that I’m forgiven would take the weight of the world off my shoulders, but I really need to know. I love God, and so the last thing I would want to do is offend him with a halfhearted confession, especially being the first one since childhood.

Thanks for reading, and, again, God bless.
 
Our faith is not based on our emotions.

And God knows your heart.

You know, even if you hadn’t been sorry for your sins (and it seems you truly were), and if you had confessed only from fear of hell rather than sorrow for sins, the absolution was still there. You were forgiven. Christ, through the priest, forgave you.
 
Our faith is not based on our emotions.

And God knows your heart.

You know, even if you hadn’t been sorry for your sins (and it seems you truly were), and if you had confessed only from fear of hell rather than sorrow for sins, the absolution was still there. You were forgiven. Christ, through the priest, forgave you.
Thanks for your reply.

But isn’t love an emotion? And love inseparable from holy faith? Loveless faith surely wouldn’t be a gift from God, would it? Like James 2:19 says: “… the devils also believe and tremble.” Thus, I was worried that something was wrong when I didn’t feel total conviction during my confession, as I did when writing my sins down. Or do faith and love compliment each other in order to produce holiness (along with hope, I assume)?

In any case, it’s great to know that I’ve been forgiven :D. I’m just trying to get my head around how Reconciliation works (at least insofar that it’s possible for the finite mind to comprehend). Maybe I’m still hanging onto Protestant ideas of salvation subconsciously.

Is Reconciliation a matter of salvation? Does being forgiven by Christ through a priest bring one to a state of salvation, or does that only truly occur when a Catholic dies? Or is it both, albeit a salvation that a person can lose through mortal sin? I recall reading somewhere that Catholic salvation is a matter of both being saved and going through a process of being saved simultaneously.
 
Thanks for your reply.

But isn’t love an emotion? And love inseparable from holy faith? Loveless faith surely wouldn’t be a gift from God, would it? Like James 2:19 says: “… the devils also believe and tremble.” Thus, I was worried that something was wrong when I didn’t feel total conviction during my confession, as I did when writing my sins down. Or do faith and love compliment each other in order to produce holiness (along with hope, I assume)?

In any case, it’s great to know that I’ve been forgiven :D. I’m just trying to get my head around how Reconciliation works (at least insofar that it’s possible for the finite mind to comprehend). Maybe I’m still hanging onto Protestant ideas of salvation subconsciously.

Is Reconciliation a matter of salvation? Does being forgiven by Christ through a priest bring one to a state of salvation, or does that only truly occur when a Catholic dies? Or is it both, albeit a salvation that a person can lose through mortal sin? I recall reading somewhere that Catholic salvation is a matter of both being saved and going through a process of being saved simultaneously.
No. Love is not an emotion! Love is an act of will. Yes, we “fall in love” and feel emotion for those we love, such as our parents, our spouse, our children - God made us this way, because otherwise, we might never marry and have children, but love is not an emotion.

Apart from all that, we only need imperfect contrition (such as the fear of going to hell) to receive absolution. God knows us far better than we know ourselves and He is the one who laid out what is necessary for absolution. Trust Him.
 
… I didn’t feel total conviction during my confession, as I did when writing my sins down.
If you felt that conviction when writing your sins down (for the purpose of later confessing them), then if that conviction was genuine sorrow (contrition or attrition), then I would feel secure in the knowledge that God credited that sorrow to you, even if you did not “feel” that sorrow later in the confessional. This presumes, of course, that in the confessional you did not actively choose to deny your sorrow, and replace it with pride.
Is Reconciliation a matter of salvation? Does being forgiven by Christ through a priest bring one to a state of salvation, or does that only truly occur when a Catholic dies? Or is it both, albeit a salvation that a person can lose through mortal sin? I recall reading somewhere that Catholic salvation is a matter of both being saved and going through a process of being saved simultaneously.
Yes, it is a matter of salvation, and yes, salvation is a process with multiple tenses - past present and future. We were saved at the moment of our baptism. We potentially are now being saved as we fall into mortal sin and return in reconciliation. We will be saved on the last day, assuming our earthly death occurs during a phase of return in reconciliation.
 
Our soul is affected by our will, not by our intellect or our emotions. When you get to Heaven, Christ will not ask you what you thought or felt in His name, He will ask you what you did.

Your Confession was valid because you went. You were honest and forthcoming. It doesn’t matter what your emotions or intellect were doing, you will is what matters.

Well done, friend.
 
Thank you all for those clarifications; immensely helpful. Love is an act of will; salvation has three tenses; our will and works are what we are judged by.
 
Thanks for your reply.

But isn’t love an emotion? And love inseparable from holy faith? Loveless faith surely wouldn’t be a gift from God, would it? Like James 2:19 says: “… the devils also believe and tremble.” Thus, I was worried that something was wrong when I didn’t feel total conviction during my confession, as I did when writing my sins down. Or do faith and love compliment each other in order to produce holiness (along with hope, I assume)?

In any case, it’s great to know that I’ve been forgiven :D. I’m just trying to get my head around how Reconciliation works (at least insofar that it’s possible for the finite mind to comprehend). Maybe I’m still hanging onto Protestant ideas of salvation subconsciously.

Is Reconciliation a matter of salvation? Does being forgiven by Christ through a priest bring one to a state of salvation, or does that only truly occur when a Catholic dies? Or is it both, albeit a salvation that a person can lose through mortal sin? I recall reading somewhere that Catholic salvation is a matter of both being saved and going through a process of being saved simultaneously.
Love is an act of the will – requiring a decision (at varying levels of awareness of making that decision). I can have a terrible headache, and decide to help a person I don’t especially like, without feeling a whole lot of joy inside. But my action is the love. Our emotions aren’t supposed to dictate our faith. Sometimes joy helps makes it easier to be more faithful though!

Jesus, through His Holy Church, helps us to reconcile ourselves to Him in many ways, and most especially in the sacraments and the Liturgy of the Mass. So yes, the sacrament of Reconciliation is a matter of salvation! You’ve got it. We don’t know when we’re going to die, so we want to work at being in union with our Lord each day!
 
We don’t know when we’re going to die, so we want to work at being in union with our Lord each day!
Indeed. I definitely think it’s God’s desire that we live each day as if it is our last, and yet, at the same time, “Not be afraid”, as Blessed Pope John Paul II oft said. 🙂

God bless.
 
Indeed. I definitely think it’s God’s desire that we live each day as if it is our last, and yet, at the same time, “Not be afraid”, as Blessed Pope John Paul II oft said. 🙂

God bless.
Amen. 🙂

When I was typing my previous post, I had another thought to offer for meditation, but it was fleeting - I forgot. So I’ll add it now.
Living each day “in joyful hope” – sound familiar? It is doubtful we will receive that fruit of the Spirit unless we are in union with our Lord, loving Him and one another.
 
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