Energy ... ten things you didn't know about energy in the United States

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Well, here in Illinois they are exploring more ways to harness windpower. Discussions are being raised across the state to establish, wind driven turbine farms. After the crazy weather we are having and the strong winds this past week, I would say this is worth expanding across the state.
 
I learned a bunch too, but didn’t find anything surprising except the Wyoming coal dimensions (I presume it’s “cleaner” coal than that found further east?)

We sure saw a LOT of windmills and coal trains when we drove through Wyoming and Montana last summer on vacation!

I did find one curious thing about the article. New York is patted on the back for having a low per capita energy usage and then they turn around and pan California for being the largest importer of electricity. DUH! They are the largest state by population, how about giving us something useful like PER CAPITA imports of electricity. Perhaps the point was to ridicule the regulatory climate there as if moving the plants out of state really made air quality better…
 
I learned a bunch too, but didn’t find anything surprising except the Wyoming coal dimensions (I presume it’s “cleaner” coal than that found further east?)

We sure saw a LOT of windmills and coal trains when we drove through Wyoming and Montana last summer on vacation!

I did find one curious thing about the article. New York is patted on the back for having a low per capita energy usage and then they turn around and pan California for being the largest importer of electricity. DUH! They are the largest state by population, how about giving us something useful like PER CAPITA imports of electricity. Perhaps the point was to ridicule the regulatory climate there as if moving the plants out of state really made air quality better…
I would bet there are a lot of other statistics that might be surprising … perhaps instead of just the largest or smallest, they could list the top ten or bottom ten.

AIER got its info from a Federal government report …

tonto.eia.doe.gov/state/

The EIA publishes a huge amount of reports …and they are fascinating and interesting. Just mouse around on the EIA web site.*
 
Here’s the one that interested me:

• Colorado’s oil shale deposits hold an estimated 1 trillion barrels of oil—nearly as much oil as the entire world’s proven oil reserves. However, oil production from those deposits remains speculative.

There is also a great deal of oil shale deposits in Canada. But if the U.S. enacts the ridiculous cap and trade idea, it will have the effect of artificially raising prices of this naturally cheap energy.
 
Isn;t shale oil though much more expensive and enviromentally damaging to extract though then “conventional” oil fields?
 
Isn;t shale oil though much more expensive and enviromentally damaging to extract though then “conventional” oil fields?
More expensive but not extremely more expensive, especially when it comes to deep off-shore drilling. And the shale fields in Canada are easier to get to than in the U.S., so I’m for opening up the Canadian fields as well.
 
More expensive but not extremely more expensive, especially when it comes to deep off-shore drilling. And the shale fields in Canada are easier to get to than in the U.S., so I’m for opening up the Canadian fields as well.
What you say is true: shale oil (and shale natural gas) are more expensive to get to, but not excessively so. The problem has been that the technology didn’t really exist until “relatively” recently to get at it. For example, they need to perform horizontal drilling and then crack the high density shale rock formations with high pressure water AND THEN prop open the cracks with “sand particles”. I have oversimplified the description. Nevertheless, the technology is now with us (and is being improved on a daily basis).

The specific techniques and technologies depend on the chemistry and physics of the specific oil and gas deposits involved. Viscosity, and all that.

When done with normal safeguards, extracting shale oil need not cause any more environmental problems than conventional oil and wells.

In some cases, the shale formation may be more like coal than a regular oil- or gas-bearing rock. And in those cases, it may be extracted with giant shovels (like coal) instead of as a liquid. But even then, with the appropriate technology, very often the oil can be removed as a liquid.

The key thing is for lay people to avoid jumping to conclusions and to learn how the specifics of each formation apply. Each situation is different.

And there is a temptation to apply broad brush, global statements that are inaccurate … to the point of being false.

I was looking at the ANWR oil and gas situation. Got to thinking about it. Common statements were that it would take ten years to get that oil to the “South 48”. But upon thinking about it, that would not be true. For example, there is an existing pipeline from Prudhoe Bay south to the port of Valdez. And from Prudhoe Bay, it’s only about 70 miles or so to ANWR. You could build a 70 mile pipeline in only a few months.

[When they first began talking about extracting oil from the North Slope of Alaska, the critics said there would not be meaningful quantities of oil. But many years later, they are still pumping oil and still discovering oil deposits. The pipeline does have available capacity from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez, so it would be feasible to start moving oil right away.]

And then there is the drilling of oil wells.

It takes one month to drill an oil well. Only one month. [Because of the cold, it might take a little longer in Alaska.] [You would need more than one oil well, but you could use more than one drill rig.]

I mentioned new technology. Well, they do slant drilling all the time. So they could drill from outside ANWR and by using slant drilling start getting at that oil.

So instead of ten years, it would only take a few months.

[NOW … it is possible for someone to initiate one lawsuit after another and delay the proceedings. But that has nothing to do with the technology and everything to do with economic mischief.]
 
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