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Various employed people have declared that they do not have enough time to get ready to attend Sunday Mass. However, these same people can make enough time to get ready for their job and still be at work on time.
What happened to their time on Sunday?
 
Various employed people have declared that they do not have enough time to get ready to attend Sunday Mass. However, these same people can make enough time to get ready for their job and still be at work on time.
What happened to their time on Sunday?
It’s call working Weekend Shift (Saturday and Sunday) which is frequently when most service/retail industry is scheduled for peons, especially in places with no Blue Laws. Or in the case of IT department with Ransomware, or a Software Developer, it’s call hellweek, “no one goes to home unless they want to get laid off”, and variants of.

Now, for some of these people, the next step of the question is: How come they cannot schedule to work so that they can do mass on Saturday, assuming Sunday is full. Some can; however, you cannot say all workers can do so. Their job may be easily replaceable. They may not have the ability to do a position that allow them to participate in mass, etc.

Their church, workplace, and home may not be easily reached with each other. The transportation may suck, requiring hours of commute.

I worked as IT, and based on my past experiences, and experiences of other of my former classmates, going through 72 hours straight frequently is common. For this, despite my current paid is lower than industrial average, the fact that I am able to have actually 9-5, M-F hours, with a church nearby such that I can walk to it daily is something I am definitely grateful for.

At the same time, instead of asking this question, pray for them so they can have a livelihood to support their families while able to keep the Sunday obligation.
 
Various employed people have declared that they do not have enough time to get ready to attend Sunday Mass. However, these same people can make enough time to get ready for their job and still be at work on time.
What happened to their time on Sunday?
Who has said this? Why not ask them about it?
 
When something is important we make time for it. For example we make time to eat every day. Some people make time to eat three times every day.
 
Who has said this? Why not ask them about it?
Right.
Or is this another hypothetical designed to get people arguing.

FWIW, people who make poor choices nearly always make every attempt to absolve themselves, lay blame elsewhere, or otherwise make excuses.
 
Right.
Or is this another hypothetical designed to get people arguing.

FWIW, people who make poor choices nearly always make every attempt to absolve themselves, lay blame elsewhere, or otherwise make excuses.
In his defence I’ve heard that from many people, particularly parents. Apparently it’s too difficult to get the kids ready for a 10 am Mass but somehow they manage to get the kids off to daycare and school and themselves to work by 8 Monday to Friday. The physical properties of time apparently change on Sunday.
 
In his defence I’ve heard that from many people, particularly parents. Apparently it’s too difficult to get the kids ready for a 10 am Mass but somehow they manage to get the kids off to daycare and school and themselves to work by 8 Monday to Friday. The physical properties of time apparently change on Sunday.
:rotfl::rotfl:

True. I am a recently paroled DRE. People never, ever miss soccer or lacrosse…but Religious Ed classes, Confirmation prep, or Sunday school is MUCH harder to schedule.
After everything else, of course.
I actually had mothers come in and complain that I was just “unwilling to work within their schedule”. That’s what I was saying…people make excuses for their bad behavior.

Fast forward to when their child wants to marry a pagan on the beach in Thailand and they’re in my office crying, sobbing, “WHAT HAPPENED?”

Nothing.
Nothing happened.
You didn’t make learning about the faith a priority.
You get what you invest in.
The kid is separated from the Church, but hey, those cheap trophies will look good in the garage.
🤷
 
Various employed people have declared that they do not have enough time to get ready to attend Sunday Mass. However, these same people can make enough time to get ready for their job and still be at work on time.
What happened to their time on Sunday?
That question is vague enough that an answer cannot adequately cover it.

Are you talking about people who have to work on Sunday? Or simply people who do not work that day and don’t go to Mass?

If the latter, noting happened as to time to get ready; that is just a cover up for the truth, which could be any number of things.

When I hear something similar to that, I simply say “Could you tell me more?”

Some times they will, and that can be very revealing. Other times, they don’t want to go into it, meaning that there is something sticking in their craw.

It is an excellent time to not get into all the reasons they should be going to Mass, or a drilling down on how it is a sin and they could/will go to hell.

Almost always, they already have that part down pat, have already been told that by any number of people. and doing so will only drive them farther away.

Drawing people back to the Faith takes a whole lot more listening than talking. They have already been talked to, shouted at, reprimanded and judged.
 
:rotfl::rotfl:

True. I am a recently paroled DRE. People never, ever miss soccer or lacrosse…but Religious Ed classes, Confirmation prep, or Sunday school is MUCH harder to schedule.
After everything else, of course.
I actually had mothers come in and complain that I was just “unwilling to work within their schedule”. That’s what I was saying…people make excuses for their bad behavior.

Fast forward to when their child wants to marry a pagan on the beach in Thailand and they’re in my office crying, sobbing, “WHAT HAPPENED?”

Nothing.
Nothing happened.
You didn’t make learning about the faith a priority.
You get what you invest in.
The kid is separated from the Church, but hey, those cheap trophies will look good in the garage.
🤷
I had a student in first communion class who told me at teh beginning of the class that he would miss a significant number of classes due to basketball games. I suggested to him that he get his mother to sign him up for a class at a more convenient time. Instead he chose to stay in my class and he gave up basketball for the year. Not everybodies priorities are bad.
 
I had a student in first communion class who told me at teh beginning of the class that he would miss a significant number of classes due to basketball games. I suggested to him that he get his mother to sign him up for a class at a more convenient time. Instead he chose to stay in my class and he gave up basketball for the year. Not everybodies priorities are bad.
That’s rare in my experience. I suspect they didn’t want to call your bluff, and didn’t want hi to iss First Holy Communion.
 
I worked as IT, and based on my past experiences, and experiences of other of my former classmates, going through 72 hours straight frequently is common. For this, despite my current paid is lower than industrial average, the fact that I am able to have actually 9-5, M-F hours, with a church nearby such that I can walk to it daily is something I am definitely grateful for.
Yes indeed. I’m in the IT field also, and right now I’m doing support for our Asian and European offices, and it absolutely makes my life difficult, especially since I have two small children.

Right now I generally don’t have to work on weekends, but I’m trying to get to a position where I work more or less 9:00 to 5:00, Mondays through Fridays. Much better for family life.

I definitely sympathize with those whose jobs make it difficult or impossible for them to get to Sunday Mass.
 
:rotfl::rotfl:

True. I am a recently paroled DRE. People never, ever miss soccer or lacrosse…but Religious Ed classes, Confirmation prep, or Sunday school is MUCH harder to schedule.
After everything else, of course.
I actually had mothers come in and complain that I was just “unwilling to work within their schedule”. That’s what I was saying…people make excuses for their bad behavior.

Fast forward to when their child wants to marry a pagan on the beach in Thailand and they’re in my office crying, sobbing, “WHAT HAPPENED?”

Nothing.
Nothing happened.
You didn’t make learning about the faith a priority.
You get what you invest in.
The kid is separated from the Church, but hey, those cheap trophies will look good in the garage.
🤷
I’d like to quote this, frame it, and blast it to everyone I know on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, everything. This summarizes contemporary parochial ministry quite nicely, sadly.
 
:rotfl::rotfl:

True. I am a recently paroled DRE. People never, ever miss soccer or lacrosse…but Religious Ed classes, Confirmation prep, or Sunday school is MUCH harder to schedule.
After everything else, of course.
I actually had mothers come in and complain that I was just “unwilling to work within their schedule”. That’s what I was saying…people make excuses for their bad behavior.

Fast forward to when their child wants to marry a pagan on the beach in Thailand and they’re in my office crying, sobbing, “WHAT HAPPENED?”

Nothing.
Nothing happened.
You didn’t make learning about the faith a priority.
You get what you invest in.
The kid is separated from the Church, but hey, those cheap trophies will look good in the garage.
🤷
Preach it sista…
 
That’s rare in my experience. I suspect they didn’t want to call your bluff, and didn’t want hi to iss First Holy Communion.
I got to know him and his family. He made the sacrifice in order to make his first communion.
 
Various employed people have declared that they do not have enough time to get ready to attend Sunday Mass. However, these same people can make enough time to get ready for their job and still be at work on time.
What happened to their time on Sunday?
Its not your business.
 
I think tiredness can be cumulative, I definitely feel worse getting out of bed towards the end of the week and throw in a busy Saturday and I really can see the temptation to just stay in my PJs on Sunday
 
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