Epistemology is the key

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R_Daneel said:
You can be entirely sure… not that it really matters. It is nor against the rules, fortunately. I am just a robot for the time being, R. Daneel is Robot Daneel Olivaw. Asimov’s creature, whom I admire.
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Ah.
R_Daneel said:
The famous E=m*c^2 equation equates matter and energy. It is somewhat unfortunate that our older understanding created a different word to describe the two manifestation for the same phenomenon. Just like we talk about separate space and time, when we should really talk about space-time.

It is our current, best understanding that all the forces (or energy) is “expressed” by exchanging particles, in the case of nucleonic forces, too. We discovered four forces, the electromagnetic, the strong nucleonic force, the weak nucleonic force and gravity. In the case of gravity, the hypothesized “gravitons” sill need to be empirically verified. One of the huge challenges of modern physics is the search for the Unified Field Theory, a common theory which is hoped to explain all the forces with one set of equations.
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I might have missed it, but I’m still uncertain why you are equating force with energy (or at least making force fall under energy). I don’t think that’s true, and hence force doesn’t seem to fall under STEM.
R_Daneel said:
It certainly would be absurd. The knowledge originally was obtained by the direct, empiral method, but once the information is obtained, it can be freely distributed via the information network. I am using the same epistmological shortcut as 99.99999…% of humanity. If you wish to say that I (personally) do not use the direct empirical method, you will be somewhat correct. It is true that I don’t wander from lab to lab, and don’t look over the shoulders of the scientists when they do the “dirty work”. However, I use the results of those experiments every day, and so does everyone else. We all do the “testing”, in an informal manner, of course. But every time I take an aspirin (for example) I **personally **verify that the claim about aspirin is correct.
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I’m satisfied with this answer … for now.
 
R_Daneel said:
Isn’t life full of surprises? 🙂
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i was wondering if you were going to respond to the arguments in post #80? they seem to show that your position is incorrect. can you show why that is not true?
 
R_Daneel said:
That is what current physics says. I have no alternate explanation.
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Really? Current physics says that force is energy? I don’t think so. Energy is the amount of work that can be performed by a force. That’s quite different from simply saying that energy is a force. But I’m completely open to correction on this.

But maybe you can point me to a creditable scientific journal that equates force and energy (or at least makes the former a species of the latter).
 
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