Estranged adult children (Long)

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I have an adult son who became estranged from me 7 years ago. I think part of it is his angry personality that he was born with. He was going to university, I was helping him with money and a free studio that was in the backyard of a rental property I own. He began having panic attacks, all the while, unbeknownst to me he was staying up late making dramatic, angry YouTube videos for a very large following (30,000 subscribers)

I had given him a deadline to move out of the studio, he had almost finished his bachelors. I had an empty house that I was renovating that I said he could move into. Anyways, he didn’t meet the deadline, I wrote an email that I was very upset, he blamed me for everything and alienated himself, dropped out of college, and is now a wandering climbing bum, working as a cook occasionally to support his lifestyle of going from climbing mecca to climbing mecca.

We had some contact on facebook, I made it clear I’m open to reconciling, meanwhile finishing raising the last of my 6 kids. Recently, one of my other sons was here before going to the Philippines, and I invited him to come to see him off, offering to pay his fare. I’m in Washington State and he was camping at Smith Rock in Oregon, about 5 hrs from here. Instead, he suggested we come down there. I asked my other son, he said yes, and we took my camper down there, my estranged son told me on FB that he’d be there. Well, we got there and he had taken off to California.

Well, the latest is that he messaged me on facebook when the Typhoon happened, asking if I had heard from the son there, and brushing off the fact that we drove all the way to Smith Rock for nothing. He became angry when I said that we had been annoyed. Then, yesterday he was even angrier because I had messaged him a Thanksgiving greeting, and told me, unless I apologized right then and there that I would never see him before I die. Then he blocked me on Facebook. 😦

Today I researched estranged adult children, and have realized that this is a silent epidemic today. Our culture of individualism fosters it. I’m thinking of starting a support group for other parents. There is a lot of embarrassment regarding this. Our culture tends to blame the parents for anything that goes wrong with our offspring, but this isn’t always the case.

I found a couple of good articles,

bu.edu/fsao/2012/07/13/when-your-adult-child-doesn%E2%80%99t-want-you/

drjoshuacoleman.com/books/helping-parents-heal/
 
I don’t know your son, and this is not an attempt at medical advise. However, panic attacks are associated with a lot of medical and mental issues. If he has not sought medical advise about this he should.

What you describes seems a bit more that simple individualism. Anger, panic attacks and choosing to live in an isolated fashion are indicators of more serious issues. There is more to this than what the “surface” presents.
 
I have an adult son who became estranged from me 7 years ago. I think part of it is his angry personality that he was born with. He was going to university, I was helping him with money and a free studio that was in the backyard of a rental property I own. He began having panic attacks, all the while, unbeknownst to me he was staying up late making dramatic, angry YouTube videos for a very large following (30,000 subscribers)

I had given him a deadline to move out of the studio, he had almost finished his bachelors. I had an empty house that I was renovating that I said he could move into. Anyways, he didn’t meet the deadline, I wrote an email that I was very upset, he blamed me for everything and alienated himself, dropped out of college, and is now a wandering climbing bum, working as a cook occasionally to support his lifestyle of going from climbing mecca to climbing mecca.

We had some contact on facebook, I made it clear I’m open to reconciling, meanwhile finishing raising the last of my 6 kids. Recently, one of my other sons was here before going to the Philippines, and I invited him to come to see him off, offering to pay his fare. I’m in Washington State and he was camping at Smith Rock in Oregon, about 5 hrs from here. Instead, he suggested we come down there. I asked my other son, he said yes, and we took my camper down there, my estranged son told me on FB that he’d be there. Well, we got there and he had taken off to California.

Well, the latest is that he messaged me on facebook when the Typhoon happened, asking if I had heard from the son there, and brushing off the fact that we drove all the way to Smith Rock for nothing. He became angry when I said that we had been annoyed. Then, yesterday he was even angrier because I had messaged him a Thanksgiving greeting, and told me, unless I apologized right then and there that I would never see him before I die. Then he blocked me on Facebook. 😦

Today I researched estranged adult children, and have realized that this is a silent epidemic today. Our culture of individualism fosters it. I’m thinking of starting a support group for other parents. There is a lot of embarrassment regarding this. Our culture tends to blame the parents for anything that goes wrong with our offspring, but this isn’t always the case.

I found a couple of good articles,

bu.edu/fsao/2012/07/13/when-your-adult-child-doesn%E2%80%99t-want-you/

drjoshuacoleman.com/books/helping-parents-heal/
I agree with Cricket2. Your son making those youtube videos and having panic attacks were signs of his issues. He was in his way crying out for help. Children are not born with angry personalities.

I am sure you love. Reach out to him, please do not not bring up what he did or did not do. Apologise if you have to, just to bring him back and be able to give him the help he needs.

Praying for your son and you and your family. God bless.
 
I don’t know your son, and this is not an attempt at medical advise. However, panic attacks are associated with a lot of medical and mental issues. If he has not sought medical advise about this he should.

What you describes seems a bit more that simple indat is his pattern, to become angry with anyone who tries to help him. 😦
I agree. He saw a counselor while in college, he tried medication. He ended up very angry at his counselor, who’d gone out of his way to help him during the summer.
 
I agree with Cricket2. Your son making those youtube videos and having panic attacks were signs of his issues. He was in his way crying out for help. Children are not born with angry personalities.

I am sure you love. Reach out to him, please do not not bring up what he did or did not do. Apologise if you have to, just to bring him back and be able to give him the help he needs.

Praying for your son and you and your family. God bless.
I’ve tried to reach out. Now, I want peace. He is too blaming and abusive to me. I am realizing that some of this is a product of our modern society, and I want to find peace and perhaps help other parents.

I’m thinking of starting a support group so parents can come together to find strength. This son has problems that I haven’t been able to help with. Everything I do is met with emotionally manipulative behavior.

I now realize that now I need to care for myself. He’s not open to help from me, other than using my attempts as a way to try to hurt me.
 
Country Gal,

My heart goes out to you…I’m starting a novena for your son tonight. I think the support group idea is an excellent idea.
 
I agree. I think a lot of parents feel isolated when dealing with this. And, embarrassed to talk openly about it.

Read about the possible causes for this, from one of of the articles I linked to in my original post.
Sally’s painful situation is no longer uncommon. Several recent articles suggest there are more parent-adult child estrangements today than in the past. Why should be the case?
First, there has been an increase in self-focused behaviors and thinking in our culture. Young people often feel that their individual needs are more important than the needs of others. People prioritize personal happiness in a relationship rather than duty or tradition. When a parent-child or husband-wife relationship experiences an ebb in passion, people say “I’m not happy” and simply move on.
Second, in today’s world, parents outsource many of their functions to paid helpers, reducing the amount of time they spend with each other and the resulting interdependence. Child care, meal preparation, housework and entertainment are provided by others, allowing the parents to work.
In addition, technology and media reduce face time and may amplify misunderstandings. Television shows like Friends and movies such as The Squid and the Whale and Mrs. Doubtfire, Revolutionary Road, Little Children portray divorce accompanied by the reliance on friends rather than family for support and companionship.
Many adult children have personal experience of living through the divorces of their parents, exposing them to a fractured family. Their emotional, physical, social and financial needs may have been trumped by parental needs. They therefore came to feel that they were a low priority in their divorcing family.
 
CountryGal,

From what you’ve said, I would expect that there is fairly serious mental illness present and you have to expect that there will be progressive deterioration in your son’s living situation, perhaps to the point of homelessness or near-homelessness.

I think a support group is a good idea, as is counseling for you to figure out an appropriate strategy for communicating with him, because this is going to be a very difficult situation, perhaps for the rest of your life. You will have to figure out what to tell your other children about the situation and how you are planning to cope with it, because this is no doubt very painful for them, too.

At some point, you may wish to consult a lawyer about this situation. If you have any sort of estate or life insurance, you should make arrangements so that your estranged son does not ever come into any large lump sum.

Best wishes!
 
Country Gal,

Sorry you are going through this with your estranged son. One of my five adult children is also estranged – we are grateful that we know he is safe from a brief contact in November. I have started a website using my education in human behavior, as well as my research/writing experience and hope to post more content to help other parents of estranged adult children (as well as provide community support).

I feel the way you do – it’s something people don’t talk openly about much, because it can be embarrassing. As a result, parents with adult children who are estranged can feel isolated. And then there is the judgment that seems almost automatic toward the parents.

Anyway, I hope you can find some peace in your situation. It is an emotional roller coaster, and something very unexpected.

rmom2011
rejectedparents.net
 
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