G
GKC
Guest
The very word.
Our priest has a rose fiddleback chausable, about 140 years old. Too fragile for much, except for next Sunday.
GKC
- Status
Our priest has a rose fiddleback chausable, about 140 years old. Too fragile for much, except for next Sunday.
GKC
G
GKC
Guest
Not an unlikely guess, but no. It’s provenance is known; it is an Anglo-Catholic relic, from the beginning of the Ritualist period.
Hard to see its color, now.
GKC
G
GKC
Guest
J
Jofantioch
Guest
I am curious about non catholic churches who is allowed to partake at them?
I used to be protestant. I can help.
I suppose it could be added bread, wine or juice.
It’s a “symbol” in these churches. It “represents” the body and blood. It’s just pretend. The Protestants do not believe in trans-substantiation. You could take communion there and it’s just an exercise in intellectualism. It would also be a slap in the face of the proper Eucharist. Don’t do it.
The words are the same.
No, the words are NOT the same. “And make this bread the precious body of your Christ. Amen” and such phrases are not used in Protestant services. In order for the bread and wine to change, you need to ask the Holy Spirit to do this. He won’t do it without asking. Protestants don’t ask. They just remember.
Theres always speculation but never any solid statements on non catholic ways.
To take communion in a Protestant Church would be a recognition that that church is the full embodiment of the body of Christ. It is not, therefore, you would be wrong to do it. I urge you in Love not to do this. If the Protestants are good-hearted but wrong, you need to stand up for your Catholic Church.
Hope this helps.
I used to be protestant. I can help.
I suppose it could be added bread, wine or juice.
It’s a “symbol” in these churches. It “represents” the body and blood. It’s just pretend. The Protestants do not believe in trans-substantiation. You could take communion there and it’s just an exercise in intellectualism. It would also be a slap in the face of the proper Eucharist. Don’t do it.
The words are the same.
No, the words are NOT the same. “And make this bread the precious body of your Christ. Amen” and such phrases are not used in Protestant services. In order for the bread and wine to change, you need to ask the Holy Spirit to do this. He won’t do it without asking. Protestants don’t ask. They just remember.
Theres always speculation but never any solid statements on non catholic ways.
To take communion in a Protestant Church would be a recognition that that church is the full embodiment of the body of Christ. It is not, therefore, you would be wrong to do it. I urge you in Love not to do this. If the Protestants are good-hearted but wrong, you need to stand up for your Catholic Church.
Hope this helps.
L
lak611
Guest
No, the LCMS is not just in Missouri. Here is a document from their official website which explains the differences between their denomination and the ELCA.Is the Missouri Synod just in Missouri? Do you know if other Lutheran practice closed and same questions about the Real Presence.
For Lutherans it is **not **symbolic. “…in the Lord’s Supper the body and blood of Christ are truly and substantially present and are truly offered with those things that are seen, the bread and the wine, to those who receive the Sacrament.” It is not a remembrance, or a symbolic, or merely spiritual presence.
The quote is from the Apology of the Augsberg Confession.
L
lak611
Guest
The Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod also practices close communion.Do you know if other Lutheran practice closed and same questions about the Real Presence.
T
tundramom
Guest
I can’t let this thread go by without re-telling my experience in the Assembly of God. We only had communion once a month, and yes, there was the “be right with God and your neighbor pause”… but when the Pastor said, “we could be doing this with a snickers bar and a coke and it would be the same thing”… well, that was the biggest red flag for me that it was time to come Home to Rome!
in Christ
Steph
in Christ
Steph
C
Cs6153
Guest
One time someone who is part of AOG said the same thing that you could substitute anything you want for bread and wine and said the use of coca-cola could be justified becuase wine was the only social drink available to drink in biblical times. He told me if coca cola was available in Jesus time they probably would of used that.
They use grape juice instead of wine to prevent lawsuits.
Its a scary thought to us Catholics…but to them they probably do not think twice because they do not believe in the Real Presence
They use grape juice instead of wine to prevent lawsuits.Its a scary thought to us Catholics…but to them they probably do not think twice because they do not believe in the Real Presence
O
O.S.Luke
Guest
I think you’re overgeneralizing. It is more than a symbol in Anglicanism, Methodism, and Lutheranism. It is the Body and Blood of Christ. Period. No explanation needed.
Again, you’re mistaken. The epiclesis from the United Methodist eucharistic prayer (Word and Table I):
I think it’s important that we have clarity on each other’s beliefs.
L
LutheranDK
Guest
That statement is just not true! At least not from a Lutheran point of view.
Holy Communion is NOT symbolic! - see Article X in Confessio Augustana!
ccel.org/ccel/schaff/creeds3.iii.ii.html
Please get your facts straight…
L
LutheranDK
Guest
You did not have to go down THAT path…
As I have explained in another post: The Lutheran Church clearly rejects such…obscenities.
P
paidion
Guest
I’ve been to a Messianic synagogue that celebrates the L-rd’s Supper only once a year - at Passover. I don’t think I would call it “eucharistic communion” (as stated in the OP), though.
Other synagogues (messianic, of course) celebrate it more often, but I’ve not seen any where it is common to have it on a weekly basis. I’ve never heard of any specific requirements regarding when/how often it is to be observed - other than Passover, naturally. I believe that matter is left to the rabbi to decide. Matza and wine or grape juice is used. It is a symbolic representation of what Messiah did by giving/sacrificing Himself for our redemption.
Anytime I’ve celebrated the L-rd’s Supper, there is always an admonition to carefully examine one’s self. (I Cor.11:26-32)
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.
27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord.
28 A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup.
29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
30 That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.
31 If we discerned ourselves, we would not be under judgment;
32 but since we are judged by (the) Lord, we are being disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.
shalom
Other synagogues (messianic, of course) celebrate it more often, but I’ve not seen any where it is common to have it on a weekly basis. I’ve never heard of any specific requirements regarding when/how often it is to be observed - other than Passover, naturally. I believe that matter is left to the rabbi to decide. Matza and wine or grape juice is used. It is a symbolic representation of what Messiah did by giving/sacrificing Himself for our redemption.
Anytime I’ve celebrated the L-rd’s Supper, there is always an admonition to carefully examine one’s self. (I Cor.11:26-32)
26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the death of the Lord until he comes.
27 Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord.
28 A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup.
29 For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself.
30 That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number are dying.
31 If we discerned ourselves, we would not be under judgment;
32 but since we are judged by (the) Lord, we are being disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.
shalom
- Status