Eucharistic Miracles - Blood Type

[tessi]

An example: if a consecrated host were to drip blood, the blood would not be the Eucharist, and would not contain the Real Presence of Christ.

In another forum I’ve told the opposite. People assure me that Jesus remains sacramentally in an eucharistic miracle. The blood and the flesh we now see are Jesus.

 

[Verbum_Caro]

Tessi,

I’d be interested in seeing their reasoning. Would you be able to PM me the link to the forum discussion?

VC

 

[Polaris]

I think its scary that He is an AB. An O- can heal all types no mater what type they are, but AB can heal only other ABs. Is this revealing the nature of Jesus as only saving or healing a few. I really hope not. Yet I do not believe in Eucharistic miracles, or most miracles for that matter. The only miracle I believe in with Eucharist is the one that I can not see.

 

[tessi]

I found this text in the page therealpresence.org

Reverend Fr. Roberto Coggi, O.P.:
Medieval theologians have carefully examined the matter of Eucharistic Miracles (which were very frequent in their day) and have given various interpretations; but the best founded and most reasonable one seems to be that of St. Thomas Aquinas, the “Eucharistic Doctor” par excellence (Summa Theolgica III, q. 76, a. 8).

He says that the body and blood which appear after a miracle are due to the transformation of the Eucharistic species, namely, of the accidents, and do not touch the true substance of the body and blood of Christ. In other words, the species of bread and wine are miraculously changed into the species of flesh and blood; but the true body and true blood of Jesus are not those which appear but those which, even before the miracle, were hidden beneath the species of flesh and blood.

If, in fact, the flesh and blood which appear were truly the flesh and blood of Christ, we would have to say that the risen Jesus, who reigns impassibly at the right hand of the Father, loses a part of his flesh and blood, something which in no way can be accepted.

We must therefore say that the flesh and blood which appear in the miracles are in the order of species or appearances, neither more nor less than the order of the species of bread and wine.

The Lord performs these miracles to give us a sign, easy and visible to all, that in the Eucharist there is the true body and true blood of the Lord.

But this true body and this true blood are not those that appear, but rather those that are substantially contained under the species or appearances, species and appearances that, before the miracle, were those of bread and wine, and after the miracle are those of flesh and blood.
Under the appearances of flesh and blood Jesus is truly and substantially contained as He was before the miracle. For this reason we can adore Jesus truly present under the species of flesh and blood.

 

[ViergeConsacree]

I am a 19 year-old French-Canadian girl born in Québec: my name is Andréanne. I am currently attending university in the U.S. Recently, The Lord Jesus deigned to bestow upon my younger female cousin a mesmerizing miracle… Her name is Françoise, and she is now an 18 year-old girl living in Montréal. 6 months ago, she was baptized in Montréal, and afterwards, she received Holy Communion every week on Sunday morning in a local church. Last week, she wanted to donate her blood, so she had her blood type checked by nurses who worked for Héma-Québec… Upon this occasion, she unintentionally discovered that her blood type was changed from A+ to AB+, the latter also known as the blood type of the Precious Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, the blood type that was detected through the blood stains of the Shroud of Turin and the coagulated blood globules from the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano as well… She was certain of her blood type before this awe-inspiring modification, as she typed her blood at least 3 times during her childhood in The Montreal Children’s Hospital: since this is a very big, comprehensive and well-equipped hospital, I do not think there had been any mistakes… After the modification in her blood type, she again had her blood typed 3 times in the same hospital, and each time, the result that came out was AB+… So it is highly unlikely that negligence be the cause of any erroneous typing results…She is very healthy: she never suffered from Auto-Immuno-Deficiency Syndrome, malignant tumors, leukemia, lymphoma or antigen infections; she never received any bone marrow transplant or liver transplant either… She has always been a virgin: no man ever knew her, and she has never been pregnant… My cousin’s godfather, a Catholic priest in Montréal, says it is likely that my cousin’s blood type change be due to the fact that she received Holy Communion for almost 6 months, and that the Lord Jesus Christ, for some reasons still unknown to us, decided to instill into the arteries and veins of my cousin His Most Precious Blood, each time my cousin received His Body and Blood, aka the Holy Communion, “the Blood of the New Covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins”…

Please answer these 3 questions:

1. In the course of the history of Catholicism or Christianity, has there been any miracle identical or similar to this one my sister experienced?
2. What would such a miracle imply/entail, for my sister as a young adult?
3. My sister’s godfather advised her to keep the whole affair veiled, so up until now, only her godfather and I know about this occurrence; not even her parents are privy to this “secret”… As Françoise’s sister, I shall like to know: what would be the repercussions of this miracle being divulged to the Catholic Community?

Thank you very much for your kindness and your patience!

Sincerely Yours,

Andréanne

 

[Lady_Love]

There is a great documentary you can watch on this very subject. It is called, “Science Tests Faith,” It is all on the results of Eucharistic Miracles, and the results of a bleeding statue. It is Awesome!

 

[rcwitness]

Thank you bpbasilphx and Verbum Caro. I was afraid I’d be a lone voice crying in the wilderness. To repeat and clarify, I’m saying that when the *accidents of bread and wine *disappear, or are consumed and digested, or degrade into something other than bread and wine, there is no more Real Presence. The Sacred Species may turn into incorruptible flesh and blood, a miracle to be sure, but as soon as this happens the Real (sacramental) Presence has ceased.

I will pull a quote from the book “Pastoral Answers” written by Msgr. Francis Mannion on this topic. He says:

One more thing. Jesus commanded us to “Take and EAT… Take and DRINK.” We cannot eat and drink consecrated Bread and Wine *whose appearances *are literal flesh and blood. To do so would make us cannibals, a false accusation the Roman pagans hung on the early Christians. It is this serious misunderstanding of the Real Presence that causes some non-Catholics to accuse us of cannibalism even today. But the Church’s doctrine of transubstantiation totally repudiates this notion.

• Westy

But the point is, if you could see what It really is you are receiving, you wouldn’t see heart tissue or a spot of blood. You would see the whole person of Christ in all His Easter-morning glory, the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity, as He sits at the right hand of the Father.

• Westy

This is very interesting to me! Does this stance basically contradict the possibility of a real Eucharistic miracle…?

If the Sacrament is no longer valid, then Christ is not present in body, soul, divinity

The idea that it could be His flesh, but seperated from His soul seems quite blasphemous!

But if even one of these miracles is true, it is either the Lord’s body (which cannot be separated from His glory) or not. The question would remain;

Can a miraculous host become flesh and blood, but without accidents to remain a Sacramental meal (making it for a purpose other than the consumption of the Lord’s supper) still contain the body, soul, divinity and still only “reveal” the actual flesh and blood aspects of the Lord?

I enjoy your clarrification about Our Eucharist, however…just because the Lord’s body contains His soul and divinity, that does not change the fact that it is real flesh and blood we eat. It only means it is glorified by God. That is why it is not cannibolism in the sinful way some would perceive it. Jesus is from heaven…what came down from heaven and became human is not the same as our flesh, which came from below.

I could be wrong here…it is very deep! I am trying to make sense of your information.

In the end, I feel the Eucharistic body and blood of Christ are so, because it is precisely how God Himself perceives it to be…His Son…body, soul…passion and resurrection. Promise of presence and offering grace.

Thanks,
Michael