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i’m trying to find out how to explain to someone the differences between evangelical and fundamentalist. thankyou for any help you can give me.
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Contarini
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“evangelical” is a much broader category, and (non-fundamentalist) evangelicals are more moderate and less dogmatic in their attitudes. They are open to recognizing as true Christians anyone who shows the fruit of the Spirit, while fundamentalists demand that you dot all the “i’s.” That’s the short answer.
The longer answer (which I can’t help giving, though I’ve actually given it already in an earlier thread), is something like this: evangelicalism stems from 18th-century movements within Protestantism that emphasized personal commitment to Christ and a moment of conversion rather than doctrinal belief. By the 19th century, evangelical Protestantism was dominant in the United States, and to a large extent in Britain as well. Then in the early 20th century, this evangelical consensus split into “modernist” and “fundamentalist” wings. The “fundamentalists” were marginalized for decades, but then in the 1940s many of them took a more moderate stance and began interacting more with the culture as a whole. They tended to call themselves “evangelicals” to distinguish themselves from those who maintained the hardline, separatist stance. Billy Graham is probably the single most typical figure in this “new evangelicalism.” The magazine Christianity Today (which has an excellent website) is the best source for what evangelicalism is like today.
In Christ,
Edwin
The longer answer (which I can’t help giving, though I’ve actually given it already in an earlier thread), is something like this: evangelicalism stems from 18th-century movements within Protestantism that emphasized personal commitment to Christ and a moment of conversion rather than doctrinal belief. By the 19th century, evangelical Protestantism was dominant in the United States, and to a large extent in Britain as well. Then in the early 20th century, this evangelical consensus split into “modernist” and “fundamentalist” wings. The “fundamentalists” were marginalized for decades, but then in the 1940s many of them took a more moderate stance and began interacting more with the culture as a whole. They tended to call themselves “evangelicals” to distinguish themselves from those who maintained the hardline, separatist stance. Billy Graham is probably the single most typical figure in this “new evangelicalism.” The magazine Christianity Today (which has an excellent website) is the best source for what evangelicalism is like today.
In Christ,
Edwin
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Katholikos
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evangelicalism - stresses the importance of personal conversion and faith as the means of salvation
Fundamentalism - An organized, militant Evangelical movement originating in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century in opposition to Protestant Liberalism and secularism, insisting on the inerrancy of Scripture.
Fundamentalism - An organized, militant Evangelical movement originating in the United States in the late 19th and early 20th century in opposition to Protestant Liberalism and secularism, insisting on the inerrancy of Scripture.
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Katholikos
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An accurate definition of Fundamentalism was given by the World Congress of Fundamentalists, which met in 1976 in Usher Hall, Edinburgh, Scotland:
http://logosresourcepages.org/_themes/global-logos/globul1a.gif**A Fundamentalist is a born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ who-- **
http://logosresourcepages.org/_themes/global-logos/globul1a.gif**A Fundamentalist is a born-again believer in the Lord Jesus Christ who-- **
*]Maintains an immovable allegiance to the inerrant, infallible, and verbally inspired Bible.
*]Believes that whatever the Bible says is so.
*]Judges all things by the Bible and is judged only by the Bible.
*]Affirms the foundational truths of the historic Christian Faith: The doctrine of the Trinity; the incarnation, virgin birth, substitutionary atonement, bodily resurrection and glorious ascension, and Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ; the new birth through regeneration by the Holy Spirit; the resurrection of the saints to life eternal; the resurrection of the ungodly to final judgment and eternal death; the fellowship of the saints, who are the body of Christ.
*]Practices fidelity to that Faith and endeavors to preach it to every creature.
*]Exposes and separates from all ecclesiastical denial of that Faith, compromise with error, and apostasy from the Truth.
*]Earnestly contends for the Faith once delivered.
The World Congress of Fundamentalists summarized their definition in this way: “Fundamentalism is militant orthodoxy set on fire with soulwinning zeal.”
JMJ Jay
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SPOKENWORD
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That fits me pretty good to what I believe. I now consider myself a fundy.
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Apologia100
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The ironic thing is that none of these doctrines or “points of faith” appear in the bible! So, their primary emphasis of faith is paradoxical.
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SPOKENWORD
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Wait,im now a parafundy.
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Katholikos
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If you “contended for the Faith once delivered” (Jude 3), you’d be a Catholic. Instead, you rejected the ancient Church founded by Christ and taught by the Apostles and embraced heresy, preferring man-made beliefs to the teachings revealed by God through Christ and His Church.Wait,im now a parafundy.
:tsktsk: :crying:
We’ll leave the light on for you.
JMJ Jay
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SPOKENWORD
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Thanks Jay ,thats considerate of you ,but im carrying it. Jesus said I would be the light of the world.
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Apologia100
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Great, you’re turning the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church into Motel Six.
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Maccabees
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Like any label they don’t necessarily tell the whole story
some fundamentilist simply don’t like the label anymore and prefer to be called evangelicals. All Evangelicals hold to the fundamentals of the fundamentalist faith but often add to that charismatic worship and a broaer spectrum of ecunemical activity and broader base of Biblical study with a wider appeal of resources outside of ist own denomination. Fundamentilist pretty much stick to the its own church or denomination tenets and work very little with other churchs on social issues and don’t seek theological training or understanding outside of ther very samll circle. They don’t get out much.
some fundamentilist simply don’t like the label anymore and prefer to be called evangelicals. All Evangelicals hold to the fundamentals of the fundamentalist faith but often add to that charismatic worship and a broaer spectrum of ecunemical activity and broader base of Biblical study with a wider appeal of resources outside of ist own denomination. Fundamentilist pretty much stick to the its own church or denomination tenets and work very little with other churchs on social issues and don’t seek theological training or understanding outside of ther very samll circle. They don’t get out much.
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Katholikos
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Actually, Jesus said that to the Catholic Church – to its leaders, His Apostles. “You [the Church] are the light of the world. A city set on a hill [the Church] cannot be hid.” Mt 5:14Thanks Jay ,thats considerate of you ,but im carrying it. Jesus said I would be the light of the world.
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asquared
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listening to late nite Christian radio as I drive home which advertises itself as evangelical, I have heard preachers really denouncing pentecostals and charismatics. I had always assumed the pentecostals came out of the fundamentalist “movement”, so I am even more confused. I guess the point is you cannot make a generalization about the connotation of a label applied to a sect, congregation or denomination that has no central authority or leadership.
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Contarini
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asquared,
As the terms are generally used, at least by scholars of the subject, “evangelicalism” includes Pentecostals while “fundamentalism” does not. However, as you note, many who call themselves “evangelicals” are very hostile to Pentecostals, and many Pentecostals have beliefs very similar to fundamentalists. But as a general rule fundamentalists regard the “gifts of the Spirit” as having ceased after the times of the Apostles, and they see the Pentecostal claims to such “gifts” as a delusion, perhaps a Satanic one. In the fundamentalist view, Pentecostals (and still more charismatics, because they tend to be more ecumenical and even–horror of horrors–include Catholics) compromise the authority of Scripture by leaving room for private extra-Scriptural revelation.
Evangelicalism is a very broad tent, and many evangelicals may be critical of Pentecostals. But generally non-fundamentalist evangelicals are willing to work with Pentecostals and see them as basically in the same camp.
In Christ,
Edwin
As the terms are generally used, at least by scholars of the subject, “evangelicalism” includes Pentecostals while “fundamentalism” does not. However, as you note, many who call themselves “evangelicals” are very hostile to Pentecostals, and many Pentecostals have beliefs very similar to fundamentalists. But as a general rule fundamentalists regard the “gifts of the Spirit” as having ceased after the times of the Apostles, and they see the Pentecostal claims to such “gifts” as a delusion, perhaps a Satanic one. In the fundamentalist view, Pentecostals (and still more charismatics, because they tend to be more ecumenical and even–horror of horrors–include Catholics) compromise the authority of Scripture by leaving room for private extra-Scriptural revelation.
Evangelicalism is a very broad tent, and many evangelicals may be critical of Pentecostals. But generally non-fundamentalist evangelicals are willing to work with Pentecostals and see them as basically in the same camp.
In Christ,
Edwin
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