Ever hear of the Group: Tradition, Family and Property or TFP?

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I get emails from this group TFP wanting signatures for various Catholic related causes. I never thought much about them until I got an email today about a petition involving this current mess about the NFL and their kneeling protests. Personally I find this type of protest distasteful, but I have been ignoring it since practically everything is politically energized these days.

This email is urging a viewing boycott of the NFL and wants a signature to send to the league. I am not sure what to think about it. It led to some minor curiosity about the group and there is more than a little controversy about them. The email is signed:

John Horvat
Vice-President, Tradition, Family and Property (TFP)


Anybody familiar with them?
 
Yes. They have done protests have been frequently harrassed by secular and left-wing activists. One them even had pesticide sprayed on himself once.
 
I’ve heard of TFP; they show up a lot at March for Life and other political rallies.

I’m very wary of them. Their founder, Plinio Correa de Oliveira, once apparently described Vatican II as “one of the greatest calamities, if not the greatest, in the history of the Church” and there are a lot of rumors that TFP has some really wacky and heretical internal beliefs (like that Oliveira’s guardian angel is St Michael). They also have a tendency to co-opt protests that aren’t necessarily religious in nature and explicitly tie them to Mary and Fatima specifically, which is cool and all, but alienates a lot of our allies and is kinda annoying.

You don’t need them.
 
My main familiarity with them is the book they put out a while back:


It’s not a perfect book, but I thought it did a pretty good job of responding to the same sex marriage arguments, particularly the section addressing it from a natural law vantage point.

I’m not really familiar with the founder or what they’ve done recently. I think the brouhaha about NFL players and the national anthem is a bit over the top on both sides. (Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)
 
The letters you get from John Horvat is the U.S. version of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP). Here’s what Colin Donavan (Vice President for Theology at EWTN) had to say about them in answering a similar question such as the OP’s;.
The TFP in the US is engaged in good work and has the support of quite a few bishops, and individuals such as Fr. Trigilio and Fr.Apostoli and others. I think we should judge them on that today.
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Fr. Andrew Apostoli and Fr. John Trigilio are regulars on EWTN for what it’s worth. You can read his entire answer here
 
I think it’s worth noting, though, that this answer from EWTN’s Q&A is from 2003. A lot can change in an organization in 14 years. So I wouldn’t necessarily hold out the endorsement as a blanket endorsement of their present activities.

The book I linked to in my previous post does have endorsements from Fr. Triglio along with a few bishops (Bruskewitz, Vasa, and Neinstedt). But just because something they have worked on in the past has met with approval from priests and bishops doesn’t mean everything they have done since that time is similarly endorsed.

Which is not to say that there is something wrong with them now. I honestly haven’t kept up with them over the past 10 years, so I don’t know.
 
Solid organisation.

Dr. Plinio was, by all accounts, a saintly individual.
 
Mark121359 said:
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Joe_5859 said:
I think it’s worth noting, though, that this answer from EWTN’s Q&A is from 2003. A lot can change in an organization in 14 years. So I wouldn’t necessarily hold out the endorsement as a blanket endorsement of their present activities.

The book I linked to in my previous post does have endorsements from Fr. Triglio along with a few bishops (Bruskewitz, Vasa, and Neinstedt). But just because something they have worked on in the past has met with approval from priests and bishops doesn’t mean everything they have done since that time is similarly endorsed.

Which is not to say that there is something wrong with them now. I honestly haven’t kept up with them over the past 10 years, so I don’t know.
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How about THIS…is this update enough for you?
 
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