"Everything happens for a reason"

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I have heard the phrase “everything happens for a reason” so many time. I am kinda irked by this phrase, it seems often an excuse to ignore pain and suffering in one’s life.

What is the Catholic Church teaching on this?
 
I have heard the phrase “everything happens for a reason” so many time. I am kinda irked by this phrase, it seems often an excuse to ignore pain and suffering in one’s life.

What is the Catholic Church teaching on this?

Divine Providence includes & extends to all things - therefore, everything happens for a reason. Our blindness to the reasons for whatever-it-may-be does not make them non-existent.​

 
I like that phrase, to me it is indicative of God allows us to go through trials so that we may come out of it as better people.
 
I hear this and have said this. To me this means that everything that happens is part of your journey and God can take all situations and make something good come from it. Here is an example. A friend’s daughter died from an allergic reaction to a medication. 22 years old, very tragic. Also her only child. Why would this have to happen? Something good will come from it. They donated her organs and it saved lives. Who knows what will happen from those who were saved by her organs? A cure for cancer maybe? Everything can happen for the good for those who love Him. ( There is a scripture passage that says something about this). Sometimes something bad will happen and ten years down the road, you can look back and are able to see why it happened or how it helped you, ( or someone else).

One good way to start to recognize how everything happens for a reason is to try thinking about things that have happened to you by coincidence. Now, think again because there is really no such thing as coincidence! Those things are happening for a reason. Just pay close attention and you will understand them for what they really are.
 
Perhaps I have seen it as a way of denying the concept of free-will. I guess I see it that if “everything happens for a reason,” we do not have free will and God determines our every action.
 
It’s not a denial of free will…rather, it’s the opportunity God puts before us to see how much faith we have in Him. The choices we make in difficult decisions does matter, though we may not have control of all the circumstances.
 
I have heard the phrase “everything happens for a reason” so many time. I am kinda irked by this phrase, it seems often an excuse to ignore pain and suffering in one’s life.

What is the Catholic Church teaching on this?
My best answer is to recommend a book to you called “Why Does God Permit Evil” by Dom Brunno Webb.

I think it is the best book around that makes sense out of our suffering. It looks at the overall economy of salvation.

If we trust that God is in control and He knows what He’s on about then the saying everything happens for a reason makes sense.

If we remember that not one hair falls from our head without His persmission then we can trust that everything does happen for a reason.

A priest giving a homily on the Beautitudes spoke of the poverty of answers. This is a true poverty in this day and age when we want God to answer to us instead of the other way around. We have to be content that God is the One in charge. There in lies humility and so our participation in God’s own humility.

The only thing we should be concerned with is our part of the plan, to love Him and our neighbor in whatever form that will take, each day that He gives us.

If you are interested I have made a summary (not a very good one by okay enough I guess 🙂 ) of the book and I will post it here if you like.
 
Perhaps I have seen it as a way of denying the concept of free-will. I guess I see it that if “everything happens for a reason,” we do not have free will and God determines our every action.
If you lose your job, house, or a dear one, if you had a car crash, someone robbed you, a friend turned his back on you - what would it have to do with YOUR free will?

I think that this saying has something from the message of the Cross - suffering, bad things, problems will come our way, but God is in control, and He can bring out good out of the evil (Read Romans 8). For me, this has proven to be true, some of the worst things that happened to me later turned to the best things that changed the direction of my life and brought greater good in the end.
 
My best answer is to recommend a book to you called “Why Does God Permit Evil” by Dom Brunno Webb.

I think it is the best book around that makes sense out of our suffering. It looks at the overall economy of salvation.

If we trust that God is in control and He knows what He’s on about then the saying everything happens for a reason makes sense.

If we remember that not one hair falls from our head without His persmission then we can trust that everything does happen for a reason.

A priest giving a homily on the Beautitudes spoke of the poverty of answers. This is a true poverty in this day and age when we want God to answer to us instead of the other way around. We have to be content that God is the One in charge. There in lies humility and so our participation in God’s own humility.

The only thing we should be concerned with is our part of the plan, to love Him and our neighbor in whatever form that will take, each day that He gives us.

If you are interested I have made a summary (not a very good one by okay enough I guess 🙂 ) of the book and I will post it here if you like.

This book, All Things For Good, is Protestant & Puritan, and is simply outstanding:​

As for your post, the only thing I would add is something you hint at 🙂 - the question implies, or could imply, that we are the centre of creation :eek: How are we going to understand why things happen, if we think that we are the reason for them ? ISTM that to think the universe exists for us, may lead to unbelief - because we don’t know much about the rest of the universe; so if it did exist for us, it would be meaningless.

But, if all things exist for Christ - the NT teaching - our ignorance of most of the universe becomes irrelevant. 🙂

About the “poverty of answers” - what did the priest mean: that there was a lack of them, or that they were in some sense impoverished ? Or both ? 🤷
 
I have heard the phrase “everything happens for a reason” so many time. I am kinda irked by this phrase, it seems often an excuse to ignore pain and suffering in one’s life.

What is the Catholic Church teaching on this?
There is no chance. There is, however, Divine Providence and free will.
 
If you lose your job, house, or a dear one, if you had a car crash, someone robbed you, a friend turned his back on you - what would it have to do with YOUR free will?

I think that this saying has something from the message of the Cross - suffering, bad things, problems will come our way, but God is in control, and He can bring out good out of the evil (Read Romans 8). For me, this has proven to be true, some of the worst things that happened to me later turned to the best things that changed the direction of my life and brought greater good in the end.
Maybe it’s how you react to these events that involves your free will. The opportunity to do good is the “reason”.
 
About the “poverty of answers” - what did the priest mean: that there was a lack of them, or that they were in some sense impoverished ? Or both ? 🤷
The lack of them. When you look at the evil around us, the seemngly unnecessary pain inflicted on innocent people, then we are inclined to question either the existence of God or the fact that He is Love.

When we cannot find the answer and still believe then we are truly blessed indeed. That is why I think the likes of Maximilien Kolbe are saints, and why St Therese’s big and little moritifications makes sense.
 
I have heard the phrase “everything happens for a reason” so many time. I am kinda irked by this phrase
Well, on a purely scientific basis, the statement is true. It’s the whole cause-and-effect thing. Nothing happens without a cause (a “reason”).
What is the Catholic Church teaching on this?
The principle of cause-and-effect is the basis of St. Thomas Aquinas’ “Unmoved Mover” proof of the existence of God. The Church acknowledges that nothing (except God) happens without a cause (a “reason”).

But I know what you are saying. To extend this concept to the idea that no evil happens without some rationally planned and intended specific benefit is not supported by either logic or Church doctrine.
 
Maybe it’s how you react to these events that involves your free will. The opportunity to do good is the “reason”.
Not only to do good, but also to learn something. A friend betrayed me long time ago. It was a very painful experience for me. But it made me think and realize that there is one friend I have that never would turn His back on me, even though I have betrayed him a hundred times. And that is Jesus - it was pretty much a beginning of my conversion. So yes, there was a reason for this friend of mine to come into my life and come out of my life again - a real blessing in disguise. I have had many like that since that time.
 
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