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Ioana
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Enjoy the read mate and good luck with your doctors appointment! 
Weāll be sending prayers through.
Weāll be sending prayers through.
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āAnd when Joseph had taken the body, he wrapped it in a clean linen shroud. and placed it in a tomb, where no one had ever been laidā¦and on the third day He will rise.ā The Shroud of Turin should have cleared doubt in anyoneās mindā¦I have always believed in the Resurrection, yet what a gift to have the Shroud, to. see for ourselves what our Merciful Jesus went through for us .I will pray for you. God bless you:
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HarryStotle
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This playlist, especially the first two videos, might give you what you are looking for.
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joeybaggz
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Struggling. I have read many of your posts and responded to a few of them. I think this is the last one I will respond to.
You ask questions no one can give your a scientifically provable answer to. We cannot put God under a microscope and there are no eyewitnesses to the events of two thousand years ago, or any of the apparitions and other faith supporting occurrences throughout history. That said, Jesus himself left us the answer. It is one that people who demand proof will not like and probably disregard. But Iāll offer it to you anyway.
Christ said, āunless you shall become like these little children, you will not see God; for such as these is the kingdom of heaven made.ā He was telling us that it is necessary to be child-like in our faith and understanding. Child-like, not childish. Look into the eyes of a 4 year old on, say, Christmas morning. They will tell you Santa Claus came and left them a wonderful gift because on Christmas Eve he flies around in his sled with his reindeer and leaves toys and gifts for all little girls and boys. In that childās eyes you will see faith, belief, trust, hope, love, and much, much more because Mommy and Daddy said it was true. We are, in the eyes of God, at least those of us who firmly believe in him, small children in comparison the Him, the Almighty. It is that trust that is manifested in us who believe in the answers we offer you. Like a little child, we cannot āproveā the existence of God to the satisfaction, just like that child cannot āproveā the existence of Santa Claus. We can only believe. Why, because Our Father has told us so.
So for you, as to your āfaithā, it is either fish or cut bait. This continuous asking of unanswerable questions is a waste of your time, and ours.
Shalom
You ask questions no one can give your a scientifically provable answer to. We cannot put God under a microscope and there are no eyewitnesses to the events of two thousand years ago, or any of the apparitions and other faith supporting occurrences throughout history. That said, Jesus himself left us the answer. It is one that people who demand proof will not like and probably disregard. But Iāll offer it to you anyway.
Christ said, āunless you shall become like these little children, you will not see God; for such as these is the kingdom of heaven made.ā He was telling us that it is necessary to be child-like in our faith and understanding. Child-like, not childish. Look into the eyes of a 4 year old on, say, Christmas morning. They will tell you Santa Claus came and left them a wonderful gift because on Christmas Eve he flies around in his sled with his reindeer and leaves toys and gifts for all little girls and boys. In that childās eyes you will see faith, belief, trust, hope, love, and much, much more because Mommy and Daddy said it was true. We are, in the eyes of God, at least those of us who firmly believe in him, small children in comparison the Him, the Almighty. It is that trust that is manifested in us who believe in the answers we offer you. Like a little child, we cannot āproveā the existence of God to the satisfaction, just like that child cannot āproveā the existence of Santa Claus. We can only believe. Why, because Our Father has told us so.
So for you, as to your āfaithā, it is either fish or cut bait. This continuous asking of unanswerable questions is a waste of your time, and ours.
Shalom
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Ioana
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fairs Joey Iāve seen a lot of this ladās posts too but this is different because I know how āprovingā the high odds of this helped me. This is literally the hinge pin of Christian belief. This is something the apostoles themselves had āprovenā to themselves to some extent. If this happened all the accessories such as the historicity of the Exodus or this weird Bible verse over there or this and thatā¦ all that becomes easy to explain/accept fluff. Iām feeling a little hopeful for Struggling on this one. He does seem to put faith under a microscope but if he has the high odds of this proven he may find other things much easier to understand. Sorry, I get a bit excited when it comes to the Ressurection
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joeybaggz
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Ioana, Please understand, my post to Struggling was not meant to chastise or be overly critical. And I donāt condemn him/her for his/her viewpoint or question. It is simply that was said in the OP, Struggling maintains a āhorrid question seriesā and is searching for answers to those questions. Definitive, incontrovertible answers (I am assuming). My point is, answers of a incontrovertible nature donāt exist to many of those questions. IN the final analysis, the answer is a matter of faith. An approach to faith from the standpoint of seeking absolute answers is a foolās errand. Scientific evidence, autobiographical writings, and eyewitness accounts donāt exist in our day and age. Questions of his/her nature are a form of spiritual āparalysis by analysis.ā You can spend a lifetime sitting on the fence waiting for definitive proof of something that cannot, by his/her standards, cannot be proven.fairs Joey Iāve seen a lot of this ladās posts too but this is different because I know how āprovingā the high odds of this helped me. This is literally the hinge pin of Christian belief. This is something the apostoles themselves had āprovenā to themselves to some extent. If this happened all the accessories such as the historicity of the Exodus or this weird Bible verse over there or this and thatā¦ all that becomes easy to explain/accept fluff. Iām feeling a little hopeful for Struggling on this one. He does seem to put faith under a microscope but if he has the high odds of this proven he may find other things much easier to understand. Sorry, I get a bit excited when it comes to the Ressurection
Shalom
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thephilosopher6
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- The empty tomb discovered by women.
- Even Jewish leaders acknowledge the empty tomb.
- The witness of Peter and the 12.
- The witness of over 500 brethren at once.
- The conversion of Jesusās brothers like James the Just.
- The conversion of Saul of Tarsus (Paul the Apostle).
- The total transformation of the apostles, even going to death for their belief.
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Elf01
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Struggling is hyper sensitive to those types of comments. Agreed that he seems to be looking for more than we can give him here but I also donāt want him to fear posting.
I do think he is making progress. Slow progress but progress and Iād hate for him to lose what little help we do give.
I think a Spiritual Director may be good for you @Struggling1.
I do think he is making progress. Slow progress but progress and Iād hate for him to lose what little help we do give.
I think a Spiritual Director may be good for you @Struggling1.
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ConstantLearner
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And John was thrown into a vat of boiling oil, but it appears not to have harmed him.
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ConstantLearner
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The greatest proof for the Resurrection is the changed life of the Apostles.
Before the Resurrection, they were hiding in fear, afraid they might be crucified, too. After the Resurrection, they went boldly about proclaiming the teachings of Christ. And, as one poster has said, all except John were martyred for it.
Before the Resurrection, they were hiding in fear, afraid they might be crucified, too. After the Resurrection, they went boldly about proclaiming the teachings of Christ. And, as one poster has said, all except John were martyred for it.
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KJW5551
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The evidence is on our side. Itās noteworthy that people who donāt believe in the resurrection turn to ridiculous conspiracy theories to try to debunk it, while Christians who do believe in it simply turn to the historical documents and facts.
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Struggling1
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Thank you for the detailed response! Definitely not my intent to waste anyoneās time. Iāll turn to other resources in the future I apologize! Hope you have an excellent evening and thank you for the time you have spent trying to help!
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Struggling1
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Iām looking into it! Itās a huge task and burden though Iām sure so time will tell if itās doable lol. Hope you are well.
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Struggling1
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I appreciate this I need to re read the epistles and letters of Paul. Do you happen to know if thereās any extra biblical documentation of the 500 other witnesses?
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joeybaggz
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If you read my post, I can understand if you felt it accusatory or unfeeling. It was not meant in that manner although as I said, I can understand your perception. . The point I was making is that much of what you seek can not be answered by human logic, reasoning, or experience. And it is akin to a circular discussion. I guess I would say your questioning is fine, but it seems like you are looking for that aha moment in an answer and the nature of your question is not going to result in that. As I said I wouldnāt post again, I did mean that in the way that I felt it pointless in trying to discover the undiscoverable, and my/our catholic acceptance of things that canāt be proven in the purview of faith and belief, not reason or logic.
I apologize if you took any offense at what I said. Please understand that I did not mean the term āwaste of timeā in a condescending manner.
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Struggling1
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I know you didnāt donāt worry! I assumed nothing but you being helpful. I hope you continue to do well.
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joeybaggz
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Thank you !
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thephilosopher6
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Paul is the only one that mentions it. Most scholars believe Paul was quoting a witness list and creed he received in Jerusalem in 1 Corinthians 15:3-8. Scholars date what Paul was quoting from 6 months to 5 years after the cross.
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The Church holds a relic that is scientific evidence of Jesus resurrection, and that ancient relic is the Shroud of Turin. This linen cloth has a miraculous Image of Jesusā corpse as it lay in the tomb. It also has His sacred blood. According to the Gospel of Matthew, Jesusā corpse was not in the tomb when it was opened on Sunday morning. It had vanished. If His corpse had been removed by man from the inside of His burial cloth, the clotted blood would have torn the linen fibers. When this Shroud was subjected to an intensive scientific investigation in 1978, no evidence of torn linen fibers could be found. In addition, the investigation was unable to say how the Image was formed.
In 1988 a small part of the Shroud was cut off for a radiocarbon fourteen dating test. The results were astonishing. A 250 variance in the dates was recorded with the dates getting younger as the part of the sample tested became closer to the Shroudās Image. The only theory that explains this anomoly as well as how the Image of His corpse was formed is the postulation that Jesusā corpse vanished from the inside of His burial cloth into another dimension. A residual radiation of protons caused the Image while a residual neutron radiation caused some of the nitrogen in the linen cloth to convert into carbon fourteen. That is why the C-14 dates recorded become younger as the part tested becomed closer to the Image.
This theory is named the Historically Consistent Hypothesis and it is detailed in a book written by Mark Antonacci in collaboration with Robert Rucker, a nuclear physicist. If you really want evidence of the Lordās resurrection, you should read this book: TEST THE SHROUD, Antonacci, 2015.
In 1988 a small part of the Shroud was cut off for a radiocarbon fourteen dating test. The results were astonishing. A 250 variance in the dates was recorded with the dates getting younger as the part of the sample tested became closer to the Shroudās Image. The only theory that explains this anomoly as well as how the Image of His corpse was formed is the postulation that Jesusā corpse vanished from the inside of His burial cloth into another dimension. A residual radiation of protons caused the Image while a residual neutron radiation caused some of the nitrogen in the linen cloth to convert into carbon fourteen. That is why the C-14 dates recorded become younger as the part tested becomed closer to the Image.
This theory is named the Historically Consistent Hypothesis and it is detailed in a book written by Mark Antonacci in collaboration with Robert Rucker, a nuclear physicist. If you really want evidence of the Lordās resurrection, you should read this book: TEST THE SHROUD, Antonacci, 2015.
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