Evil MTV

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MTV is probably Satans favorite TV channel.

Seriously, this channel is utter smut. Over the years I have noticed many abominations from this channel.

Here is a list of things MTV has condoned:
  • Lust/masturbation
  • Fornication
  • Underage drinking
  • Drug Use
  • Birth Control
  • Abortion
  • Homosexuality
  • Sodomy
  • Adultery
  • Atheism
  • Taking the Lords name in Vain
  • Materialism
I can honestly say that the principles of satanism are embodied in MTV. What is more likely to cause a young adult to sin than a bunch of scandelously clad people singing about drugs and sex?

Then MTV has all those wretched “real-life” tv shows. They feature spoiled punks and tramps running around and setting a bad example for viewers.

The FCC should ban MTV.
 
C’mon it’s fun to make fun of those vapid twits! In the real world PEOPLE PAY RENT!

small voice/ I really am addicted to Laguna Beach/small voice
 
I agree it should be banned, or at the very least it should not be part of your basic cable package. It’s a shame that in order to get the Weather Channel, you have to also pay for MTV. It would be nice if you could choose only the channels you want in your home, and keep all the ones you don’t want out.

Yes, I realise there are ways to block certain channels, but it still miffs me that you’re in a sense forced to buy MTV if you want any cable programming at all.

I deleted the channel from my remote so that when we’re surfing we don’t run across it. Too many times I’ve found myself stuck on that channel because I was appalled at what was being said or done. Kind of like how you can’t help but look at a train wreck or car accident. I’ve also deleted Spike and Comedy Central. If you want to watch a program on any of those channels, you can easily punch it up, but you’re not going to stumble on to it while flipping. It’s a good way to deter my husband from watching South Park too!
 
Here’s another option - don’t watch it!

Seriously, MSM is chock-full of indecent and immoral programming. Learn to recognize what it is, and choose to not watch it!
That would mean other people could watch it if they wanted to. You can’t allow that kind of freedom.😛
 
Freedom is good. However perverted freedom (aka MTV style smut) is not good, as Leo XIII stated.
 
I agree it should be banned, or at the very least it should not be part of your basic cable package. It’s a shame that in order to get the Weather Channel, you have to also pay for MTV. It would be nice if you could choose only the channels you want in your home, and keep all the ones you don’t want out.

Yes, I realise there are ways to block certain channels, but it still miffs me that you’re in a sense forced to buy MTV if you want any cable programming at all.
Yeah!!! It really torques my butt to see those “public service” announcements my cable company puts out about how I can “choose” by blocking out channels. But if I really had a choice, then I wouldn’t have to pay for those channels!

If the cable companies really wanted to give the customer a good service, they’d let us choose our own basic cable package. My ideal package would only have five or six channels, which is probably why I’ll never get that option.
 
Freedom is good. However perverted freedom (aka MTV style smut) is not good, as Leo XIII stated.
The trouble there is I don’t want someone deciding what is and isn’t moral for me to watch based on their standards. America is a democracy. End of discussion.
 
i remember when MTV actually showed music videos…

I stopped watching the channel a few years ago. Its nothing but JUNK.
 
MTV is probably Satans favorite TV channel.

Seriously, this channel is utter smut. Over the years I have noticed many abominations from this channel.
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You sure had no problem watching it over the years, :rolleyes:
The FCC should ban MTV
Maybe you should ban yourself from watching it. :rolleyes:
i remember when MTV actually showed music videos…

I stopped watching the channel a few years ago. Its nothing but JUNK.
Exactly !!!
 
The trouble there is I don’t want someone deciding what is and isn’t moral for me to watch based on their standards. America is a democracy. End of discussion.
Actually, America is not a democracy. America is a democratic republic. The Founding Fathers equated “democracy” with mob rule.

Society is not an entity without rights or claims. Society is well within those rights to set minimum standards of decency on public airwaves and public media.

It used to be we didn’t have a problem with this concept. What has happened?
 
Actually we’re a republic, not a democracy. (The U.S.)

There does come a point where one has to draw the line. As infants and children, we don’t ‘decide for ourselves’ what to eat, or wear, or when to sleep, etc. as a general rule. If our parents/ caregivers don’t exercise some ‘parental guidance’ or some reasonable discipline, we could wind up hurt or dead. Yet we’re afraid to speak out about the raunchiness of the media, because we don’t want to ‘dictate’ what ‘other people’ can do, even when those others are children exposed to inappropriate images.

It’s like the old, “I’m against abortion but I can’t tell somebody else how to live ‘their’ life”.

Now MTV, like many other things in the media or indeed in ‘the world’ will give spiritual hurt in a lot of instances just as any sin, or near occasion of sin, will give spiritual hurt. Some 26 years or so ago, it began, and it ‘pushed the envelope’. Now stuff on the ‘regular’ networks are promoting and showing stuff that would have been shocking on MTV in 1980–and as for cable, between the nudity and the foul language, there isn’t much that isn’t available for show, again, stuff that wouldn’t even have passed MTV in 1980.

Did MTV contribute to the loosening up of broadcast standards? Sure; so did other things. Are we **really ** better off because we simply cannot be ‘permitted’ to inflict our standards on broadcast media although small vocal fringe groups have spent the last 25 years presenting their standards? Really? Have our lives become more ‘civilized’? Or have we become more greedy, selfish, lazy, foul-mouthed, sex-crazed, nasty, and hurtful? Think about it. Is the average man or woman today a real improvement over the average man or woman 50 or 100 years ago when it comes to virtues like honesty, hard work, temperance, chastity, politeness, and charity? And what has really changed? Where do men and women’s behaviors get modeled? In the family (which has been fragmented more and more), and in society (which has relaxed its standards everywhere especially when it comes to manners and mores). Where do we see society’s influence? In our homes, our towns, and especially in this ‘information’ age in the media. If there are any ‘differences’, which group is usually portrayed as ‘better’–the people talking about trying to ‘upgrade’ society (how judgmental) or the smart aleck TV kids, the hotshot entertainers with wardrobe malfunctions, the latest celebrity ‘couple’ who show ‘everybody’ just how cool ‘doing your own thing’ is.

Haven’t you noticed that, once you ‘give in’ on a ‘little’ something, it becomes almost impossible to ‘go back’? Oh it seems so innocuous. . .how we hate in our ‘republican’ society to think that anybody can set themselves up ‘in judgment’ (hateful word), and how we break our arms patting ourselves on the back because we are so tolerant of the behaviors of others. Those same groups and individuals who have forced acceptance of things unthinkable even 40 years ago onto ‘mainstream’ America are not likely to be content with being tolerated. Hard to believe? Well, a lot of things have happened in the last 50 years or so that would have been ‘hard to believe’ before that. Already we’re being told as Christians that the establishment clause proves that we cannot ‘show any sign’ of our belief except as ‘the state’ permits.

But turn on the TV, pick up a magazine, turn on the radio, walk out on the streets. . . you’ll hear every kind of foul language and see every kind of sinful behavior presented as a given individual’s ‘right’ to free speech. Try to exercise your right to free speech by talking about Christianity though. . .oh no, that isn’t tolerant, that isn’t correct, that is hate speech, that is judgmentalism.
 
You sure had no problem watching it over the years, :rolleyes:

Maybe you should ban yourself from watching it. :rolleyes:

Exactly !!!
I never watched it on my own. I’d be flipping channels and I’d notice the abomination of MTV.

My sister watches it quite often:mad: .
 
I haven’t sat down and watched MTV since the 1980s.
I used to enjoy the videos by Foreigner, and Pat Benatar (We Belong Together), Mike and the Mechanics (The Living Years), Slade (My, Oh My), Bruce Springsteen (most of his stuff), etc., but from what I hear MTV now panders to the gutter filth crowd a la Marilyn Manson and other sick, twisted weirdos.
I won’t even look at it.
And I won’t watch VH-1 either, cuz I turned to that a while back, and it was a bunch of trash too. Geez, I remember when VH-1 was mainly easy-listening videos.

How times have changed.

Jaypeeto4 (aka Jaypeeto3)
 
The trouble there is I don’t want someone deciding what is and isn’t moral for me to watch based on their standards. America is a democracy. End of discussion.
I agree. There is a difference between Freedom and “license”…but there’s also this thing God gave us called free will which means we have the option to ignore it or change the channel. Nobody should be deciding when I need to change the channel unless Gods angels are running the broadcasts. Otherwise, its merely a human being deciding what I should or shouldnt be viewing using their own opinions which biased as well.

That being said, I rarly watch MTV. And its my choice to do so.
 
I haven’t sat down and watched MTV since the 1980s.
I used to enjoy the videos by Foreigner, and Pat Benatar (We Belong Together), Mike and the Mechanics (The Living Years), Slade (My, Oh My), Bruce Springsteen (most of his stuff), etc., but from what I hear MTV now panders to the gutter filth crowd a la Marilyn Manson and other sick, twisted weirdos.
I won’t even look at it.
And I won’t watch VH-1 either, cuz I turned to that a while back, and it was a bunch of trash too. Geez, I remember when VH-1 was mainly easy-listening videos.

How times have changed.

Jaypeeto4 (aka Jaypeeto3)
I don’t think Marilyn Manson has had a new song since the late 90’s. (fortunately) If he has had something since then it probably would be found on the MTV-2 station or FuseTV. The original MTV station has mostly aimed it’s programming nowadays at the pop teenager crowd…but still with plenty of condoned sex and no morals, etc…it really gets worse every year. And it will continue, while there’s a market for it, of course.

I’ll try my best when I do have children someday to block my kids from this stuff. I don’t want to think about what MTV will be like when I have kids old enough to be teens. Eeesh.
 
It used to be we didn’t have a problem with this concept. What has happened?
We realized art was being controlled by people for whom the least important thing in the world was artistic acheivement and the most important was impressing a certain, rigid way of how life in America works. That same system you seem to hold on a pedastal called for no kissing; no married couples sleeping in the same bed; and how often did you see an important minority character on television?

Everyone espousing a return to “traditional” values seems tof all into two camps; those who respect old things that work, and those who use tradition as a byword for controlling what people have access to. Tradition is fine, in moderation. And MTV may be junk. I wouldn’t know even in the least. But let’s say you ban MTV. How long is it till you can’t make a brilliant film like Crash because it depicts shootings, or a film like American beauty because someone’s taste got offended, even if you have ratings? TV has ratings, too; if your kids watch Desperate Housewives, you know what the bottom line is? You failed as a parent.

That’s all there is to it. Everyone screaming that kids can watch this stuff want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. To me it screams of lack of responsibility. It says “We can’t be bothered to watch what our kids are watching, so let’s just ban it. Then we don’t have to worry about it.”

You know, if you get cable, your kids can watch Nip/Tuck as well. You could always lock F/X, but even though it has wonderful shows like Monk, we should probably ban it. They can also watch The History Channel. The History Channel might have shows that honestly depict things like social interactions throughout the centuries. Those shows might teach kids that adults don’t always get along and introduce them to the concept that not everyone wins just because they follow the rules. Dangerous ideas, better ban it.

By this point, if you actually read everything I just wrote, and you still think it’s OK to ban entertainment because you personally don’t like it, you should just leave. Pack your bags and go to China. Or North Korea. Those places have enough censorship to make you happy as a clam. But the one place you don’t belong is America. It doesn’t matter whether we’re a republic, a democracy, or a democratic republic of chocolate pudding. WE. DO. NOT. CONDONE. CENSORSHIP. That’s it, lights out, good night.
 
By this point, if you actually read everything I just wrote, and you still think it’s OK to ban entertainmentbecause you personally don’t like it, you should just leave. Pack your bags and go to China. Or North Korea. Those places have enough censorship to make you happy as a clam. But the one place you don’t belong is America. It doesn’t matter whether we’re a republic, a democracy, or a democratic republic of chocolate pudding. WE. DO. NOT. CONDONE. CENSORSHIP. That’s it, lights out, good night.
We sure are getting personal, aren’t we? You couldn’t pick me out of a lineup, but, in the name of liberty, freedom of choice, and above all, tolerance, you’ll read my soul, tell me to pack my bags, and send me to North Korea. How the apostles of “tolerance” have raised rash-judging to an art form.

Perhaps somebody who can argue without wallowing in the gutter would care to take up the discussion from here:
We realized art was being controlled by people for whom the least important thing in the world was artistic acheivement and the most important was impressing a certain, rigid way of how life in America works. That same system you seem to hold on a pedastal called for no kissing; no married couples sleeping in the same bed; and how often did you see an important minority character on television?
Can anybody explain the sense in which lifting entertainment industry regulations, such as the Hays Code, redounded to the benefit of “artistic achievement”? Can anybody honestly say that we are still in the Golden Age of cinema, or that the rise of obscenity in television has translated to an increase in artistic merit? It is true that the Hays Code prohibited the portrayal of miscegenation; but can anybody cite to an industry regulation that set the portrayal of minority characters in dignified roles on the same par as forbidden scenes of graphic violence or sex?
Everyone espousing a return to “traditional” values seems tof all into two camps; those who respect old things that work, and those who use tradition as a byword for controlling what people have access to.
What difference can this make, to somebody who condemns it all?
Tradition is fine, in moderation.
And who decides that? I thought we were against anybody making these types of decisions.
And MTV may be junk. I wouldn’t know even in the least. But let’s say you ban MTV. How long is it till you can’t make a brilliant film like Crash because it depicts shootings, or a film like American beauty because someone’s taste got offended, even if you have ratings?
Yes, we would be positively poverty-stricken in a world where violence and illicit sex weren’t graphically portrayed in the movies.
TV has ratings, too; if your kids watch Desperate Housewives, you know what the bottom line is? You failed as a parent…That’s all there is to it. Everyone screaming that kids can watch this stuff want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bathwater. To me it screams of lack of responsibility. It says “We can’t be bothered to watch what our kids are watching, so let’s just ban it. Then we don’t have to worry about it.”…You know, if you get cable, your kids can watch Nip/Tuck as well. You could always lock F/X, but even though it has wonderful shows like Monk, we should probably ban it. They can also watch The History Channel. The History Channel might have shows that honestly depict things like social interactions throughout the centuries. Those shows might teach kids that adults don’t always get along and introduce them to the concept that not everyone wins just because they follow the rules. Dangerous ideas, better ban it.
Yep, it would also be pretty terrible to have to live in a world where society at large supported parents who are trying to raise their children up right, instead of thwarting them at every turn.
By this point, if you actually read everything I just wrote, and you still think it’s OK to ban entertainment…
Was I expected to be persuaded to change my mind? Here is a classic example of how naked vitriol never does the trick. You have to make a choice between persuading people and venting your spleen. You can’t do both.
 
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