Evolution is contradictory?

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Someone I know is pushing a book by a FSSP priest, Chad Ripperger, in which Ripperger claims evolution is incompatible with Catholicism and is intrinsically incoherent. As both a Catholic and scientist, I find this hard to accept. He appeals to something called first causes, of which I admittedly know next to nothing, but tries to philosophize his audience into disregarding the scientific validity of the theory. Is there any clarity to be found here?
 
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As both a Catholic and scientist, I find this hard to accept.
That’s perfectly okay. The Church (contrary to some of the posters who are going to flood this thread and say otherwise [you know who you are]) allows for Catholics to accept evolution.

Without knowing the book and just assuming the best of Fr. Ripperger, I would assume the 100% materialistic view of evolution (ie, the view that there’s no God involved) is what he was arguing against.

thomisticevolution.org is a great source for seeing compatibility between evolution and faith.

Pope Pius XII’s Humani Generis covers some of the basics

http://w2.vatican.va/content/pius-x...nts/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html

And Catholic Answers has a good tract

 
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but tries to philosophize his audience
It’s worth noting that he starts with an assumption that the soul doesn’t evolve. So therefore, after some other assumptions, neither does the body. :roll_eyes:
 
That Priest’s opinions are contradictory to those of the Magisterium.

Also think about this.

God created everything. Even this moment now. So it makes sense that God created evolution.
 
As some one with a degree in philosophy, I can assure you anyone can philosophise themselves into any position if they are overly critical of their opponent’s views and not critical enough of their own.

The author is allowed to think whatever he wants but the vast majority of secular and Catholic (as far as I know) thinking is against his thesis. A First Cause, even if it’s Good, doesn’t contradicted evolution.
 
There is no doubt that all living things share a common descent. This is what the DNA accepted in all courts tells us. It’s a fact.
 
There is no doubt that all living things share a common descent. This is what the DNA accepted in all courts tells us. It’s a fact.
Does that include any alien life that we may encounter in the future?

Will we share a common DNA with these (possible) aliens.
 
That Priest’s opinions are contradictory to those of the Magisterium
Evolution is not a Magisterial teaching. One may accept the conclusions of evolutionary studies to a certain degree. But a faithful Catholic is by no means required to believe in evolution.
 
Does that include any alien life that we may encounter in the future?

Will we share a common DNA with these (possible) aliens.
This is as yet untested. We will have to wait and see.
 
But a rational human being is.
Again, the Church does not require one to believe in evolution. Millions of faithful and hundreds of Saints walked this earth before the modern era of evolution. Belief in it is not a requirement of the faith.
 
But a rational human being is
A rational human being is required to (i) accept self evident unchanging philosophical truths, such as the whole being greater than the part, and also to participate in his/her rational soul by (ii) searching for and apprehending the unchanging philosophical truths (but not self evident), and (iii) by making rational choices & deliberations which lead to correct actions.

What a sensible human being is required to do on the other hand, varies with their position and status. But generally, the masses are required to follow/obey/respect their leaders, be it political or religious or those more knowledgeable than they are.
 
Evolution is not a Magisterial teaching. One may accept the conclusions of evolutionary studies to a certain degree. But a faithful Catholic is by no means required to believe in evolution.
However , the Magisterium does NOT say evolution is contradictory to Catholicism and is
intrinsically incoherent.

In fact as has been pointed out the Catholic Church allows the Holy Faithful to accept evolution. And has even funded research into different evolutionary aspects.

What do you mean by
before the modern era of evolution.
 
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Does that include any alien life that we may encounter in the future?

Will we share a common DNA with these (possible) aliens.
An interesting question, slightly off topic but I can’t resist commenting. The short answer is no. Some of the details of biochemistry might be arbitrary, details like chirality (right-handed vs. left-handedness of biomolecules). If there is life on other worlds, we can easily imagine that it would be based on similar chemistry, perhaps with minor differences in the amino acids, lipids, etc., but I suppose it could be much more alien. At this point it is a matter for theoretical speculation.
 
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All living things share DNA. It is transmitted by descent. That’s it.
One mind closed, others perhaps open.

DNA is a component of our bodies, a part of each cell in our body, working with other processes within those cells to maintain them. What is “shared” is information; DNA provides the “code” which is replicated by the surrounding cellular components, resulting in the development and ongoing upkeep of particular organ systems. Each and every molecule in our bodies was at one time a part of something other than ourselves, and DNA participates in the formation of that body.

While the quote above describes the world today, some of us are interested in what happened at the beginning. It appears it all started with a “big bang”, and at some point the universe was not black and cold, but rather a dense, hot, orangey goo. Things were different before the current state of cosmic affairs was finally created.

We can base our understanding of the world on existence rather than atoms and molecules, which although necessary for what was to happen later, didn’t exist for a while at the start. Considering the Ground of our existence, our being here and now, as Existence itself, we can understand it as being relational and personal, albeit at a higher level since it brings us into being. As we are knower-knowing-known, the Source of this being is Triune in nature and perfect as Divine Love, the beginning and end of our journey to be found in that Communion.

The reality of you and I as persons lies in our spirit, that which is the totality and unity of the very experiences we are having individually at this moment, where eternity meets time, alive and surrounded by what we are not and to which we relate. We perceive, think, feel and act as one self, participating within the larger spiritual psychological and physicial universe.

The person is an expression of one humanity, fallen in Adam and brought to salvation in Christ. The spiritual template, which is the reality of who and what we are, had a beginning in one man. We find ourselves here as a result of the decision we made when we were created.

The spirit, our true self was not not pieced together, and neither was our human body, which was immortal. At our beginnings, our genome would have not contained any recessive genes, as well as having the potential for diversity through genetic and epigenetic factors.

But, we did sin and as a consequence of losing the healing graces that come with a loving relationship with our Creator, things stared going downhill. Rather than evolving, we have been devolving, accumulating the disorders which actually result from random genomic mutation. And, natural selection would see to it that we suffer the same fate as that which has resulted in the decline of species in the Galapagos.

Evolution? As much as we see how pre-existing genetic features continue to result in diversity, this happens within pre-existing forms. Each individual living being, in itself, is a manifestation of its kind, created at the beginning and for the most part looking very different.
 
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