Evolution?

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BrotherPaulMary said:
Just a thought.

What kind of evidence for change in Biology would any of you expect to find to explain how two Human beings are the ancestor of nearly seven billion of us and all the diversity we have?

African, white, asian and oriental - thats a lot of diversity from two people.

God Bless
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All adaptations and yes built in from the beginning. No problem from two parents.
 
I believe the Church has also explicitly taught that we are not to believe that MAN evolved from anything. MAN was created by God. Period. End of story. Man is more than an animal and therefore cannot have evolved. You can’t evolve a soul.
 
white_sheep said:
I believe the Church has also explicitly taught that we are not to believe that MAN evolved from anything. MAN was created by God. Period. End of story. Man is more than an animal and therefore cannot have evolved. You can’t evolve a soul.
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I didn’t think the Church had a clear view on this issue…we are here now and that’s all that matters was the vibe I’ve always gotten…correct me if i’m wrong :cool:
 
The Church has a clear view of this issue that is often obscured by people attempting to apply science. Either God is the great kick starter who set things in motion or man began as some type of ape-like creature and then, at some unknown point, God dropped a soul into two of them. There is no science to back up this assertion, and there is no Church teaching to back up this assertion.

The point is: God, being God, can and has intervened. Jesus Christ intervened. Why? Because of the Original Sin of our first parents.

Peace,
Ed
 
This is the marvelous teaching of Catholicism. 👍

Basic Catholic teaching **regarding Adam, Eve, You and Me **
is found in the
Catechism of the Catholic Church, Second Edition, ISBN: 1-57455-109-4
Paragraphs 355-421.

The good news of Jesus Christ follows in Paragraph 422, etc.

One can put the word paragraph and its number in the Catechism’s search bar in link
www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm

Entering topics is also very useful since the Catechism does expand on the basics and implications. Do check out the references in the margins and in the Index.

When one enters a paragraph number, like “paragraph 355”, and then clicks on the opening line, CCC Search Result - Paragraph # 355 the following is under the paragraph:

»
»Table of Contents
»

Blessings,
granny

“The shepherds sing; and shall I silent be?”
from the poem “Christmas” by George Herbert
 
laszlo said:
Very easy: God said: Let be life. And the Big bang became. From that point the built in ‘organic’ form worked with a few correction. Just we had to understand that the word in Genesis yom is not a 24 hour period but any kind of period. God formed the body of Adam through the evolution, then created his immortal spirit and breathed into him.
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There are also two Hebrew verbs for “create.” One is more correctly translated as “fashioned.” Like you’d fashion a bowl from some clay. The other is true creation–something from nothing. The second verb is used only three times during the creation story–when God created matter from nothing, when God created life, and when God created man. The rest of the creation story is God fashioning things from what He had already created. (Not that He couldn’t have created, He just chose to fashion.) Now, can anyone guess the only three things that scientists cannot figure out about how we came to be?
 
Skeptic92 said:
The Church accepts Evolution, as long as we do not remove God from the equation, so if we accept Evolution, we accept Theistic Evolution.
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True. The Book of Genesis speaks of God commanding the earth to bring forth life.
 
Crusading_Canuk said:
Hi, first off this is probably in the wrong part of the forum, if so could somebody please move it to a more appropriate section. I believe in Creationism and intelligent design, but how are we as Catholics supposed to react to scientific discoveries like the Neanderthals and early Homo Sapiens? How are we supposed to reconcile these with the book of Genesis? Again I believe Adam and Eve were the first true people (and nothing will cange that) but what to think of this scientific evidence?
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Just because science hasn’t proved it true doesn’t mean it’s false. Evolution is not fact-it’s only theory-the theory of evolution. When something is proven true beyond doubt it’s called a Law- the law of Gravity which was given such high status before Einstein disproved it as a law-
If scientists could get gravity wronog-I’ll take my chances with the Almighty.
 
Crusading_Canuk said:
Hi, first off this is probably in the wrong part of the forum, if so could somebody please move it to a more appropriate section. I believe in Creationism and intelligent design, but how are we as Catholics supposed to react to scientific discoveries like the Neanderthals and early Homo Sapiens? How are we supposed to reconcile these with the book of Genesis? Again I believe Adam and Eve were the first true people (and nothing will cange that) but what to think of this scientific evidence?
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Neanderthals and others are pre-humans. They did not have a human nature.

Adam and Eve are the first, true, real, sole parents of humanity. Their human nature is an unique unification of the material and spiritual worlds. Human nature is rational/corporeal, spirit/matter, soul and body. We are called, through knowledge and love, to share in God’s life. This is because we are created in the Image of God. We are peerless.

The scientific research which tries to mix true humans in with non-humans has a few valid points regarding vertebrate anatomies. But we humans are more than a material anatomy which eventually decomposes. When one looks at popular research, with the eyes of reality, one finds many assumptions based on what was happening for millions and millions of years going backwards. In other words, there is plenty of time and space for the creation of Adam and Eve.

Catholics should not feel intimidated by the mountains of evidence. Catholics need to realize that while we should respect science and scientists, the evidence presented does not warrant the extrapolation to a universal conclusion denying the possibility of Adam and Eve.

Divine Revelation trumps.

Blessings,
granny

Human life is sacred.
 
grannymh said:
Neanderthals and others are pre-humans. They did not have a human nature.

Divine Revelation trumps.

Blessings,
granny

Human life is sacred.
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I can’t buy this granny. 🙂 :nope:

These:

Divine Revelation trumps. :yup:

Human life is sacred :yup:
 
BrotherPaulMary said:
Just a thought.

What kind of evidence for change in Biology would any of you expect to find to explain how two Human beings are the ancestor of nearly seven billion of us and all the diversity we have?

African, white, asian and oriental - thats a lot of diversity from two people.

God Bless
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Considering that there are 20,000 to 25,000 genes in a human person and the largeness of the earth, diversity is a given.

More important is to figure out what unites nearly seven billion individuals into one species. Sometimes, we take our spiritual soul for granted. Actually it is our soul, with its opportinity for eternally sharing in the life of our Creator, which makes us one people from one set of parents.

Blessings,
granny

The human person is worthy of profound respect from the moment of creation.
 
Crusading_Canuk said:
Hi, first off this is probably in the wrong part of the forum, if so could somebody please move it to a more appropriate section. I believe in Creationism and intelligent design, but how are we as Catholics supposed to react to scientific discoveries like the Neanderthals and early Homo Sapiens? How are we supposed to reconcile these with the book of Genesis? Again I believe Adam and Eve were the first true people (and nothing will cange that) but what to think of this scientific evidence?
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Crusading Canuk,

In a nutshell you can believe as you wish and still be Catholic when it comes to the origins of the human species. I myself believe in evolution and find the evidence convincing enough. My advice to you is DO NOT ignore the science that has arise but embrace it for it gives greater glory to God. Science simply shows the way God may have done His work. The sciences give us this ability yet we are still dumbfounded with new discoveries. The biblical accounts are not all literal. Genesis in particular no way wanted to explain scientifically the world but explain the way in which God is supreme and created man who later fell and promised to save. If you try to reconcile two different views (one poetic, one scientific) it will be silly! It’s like trying to compare, it’s raining cats and dogs with it’s raining hard due to the pressure changes in the atmosphere. Do you see the difference?

What the Church teaches on the origin of life and human species as mentioned altogether in an issuance by the Pontifical Biblical Commission confirmed by Pope St. Pius X:
  1. The creation of all things out of nothing by God
  2. The special creation of man
  3. The creation of woman from man
  4. All of humanity is descended from an orignal pair of human beings, Adam and Eve
  5. Adam and Eve were created in state of holiness, justice, and immortality
  6. A divine command was communicated to them to prove obedience to God
  7. The transgression of that commanded at the instigation of satan
  8. Lost of the state of holiness, justice, and immortality of our first parents because of their disobedience
  9. Promise of a future redeemer
 
Evolution? I believe humans evolve to their surrondings, but as far as us evolving from apes, no. If we evolved from apes, why are there still apes then? Ill stick with what Our Lord Jesus has taught us, its always worked for me.🙂
 
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