"Exploitation of employees" explanation of dividends and capital appreciation of Microsoft stock from initial public offering to today

[PseuTonym]

Maybe we need to investigate what happened before Microsoft stock was listed on any exchange. Did Microsoft spam the world with email before email existed, and waste the time of people who had no reasonable chance of getting hired by Microsoft? That is one possibility. We can look at how Microsoft advertised jobs prior to conducting interviews.

We also get into the issue of pay equity. Obviously, Microsoft hired far more women than a company managed primarily to serve its customers, its employees, and its community would have hired. It is well-known that women are paid less than men, so obviously part of the reason that Microsoft was able to pay extremely low wages to its employees (and in other ways exploit them) was by hiring more women than a better-managed company would have hired.

It would be nice if there were at least one company in the world that doesn’t exploit women. If there were some way to predict that some newly established company might be “the next Microsoft” (as they say), then should it be possible to get government authorization to hire men only, and to advertise that only men will be hired?

 

[JimG]

I don’t understand. Are you saying that Microsoft exploited women by hiring too many women? And that it should have hired only men?

 

[Theo520]

So many assertions that are contradictory, or without evidence.

• impossible to spam the world with email before it existed.
• what’s your evidence their job ads did not have clear requirements?
• popular companies, like popular schools, are always oversubscribed.
• Your evidence MSFT paid extremely low wages in general, or that females were treated more unfairly?
• why would a better managed company have hired fewer women, you sound sexist.
• all employees are exploited I expect by your definition (not well clarified though)
• hiring men only is a very strange comment, how is it relevant?

 

[Trader]

I tried really hard, but failed to understand the initial post.

Are you saying that the women who served lunch in the Microsoft cafeteria should have been paid the same as the male software engineers?

As with most start-ups early Microsoft employees received a lot of their pay in stock options and restricted stock. Steve Balmer is a multi-billionaire because of that, not only Bill Gates and Paul Allen.

Bill Gates did marry a female employee who thus has many billions of dollars to her name, and surely raised the average financial gain for all female Microsoft employees to way above the average for any other company.

 

[Theo520]

MSFT actively hired and promoted women, they were paid on the same scale as men for their job levels. Thought coding jobs may have been more male dominated, marketing, ops and HR were female leaning. In sales they hired both sexes as well, and paid for performance.

Running the cafeterias was rightfully contracted out to companies that specialize in food service. They hired both men and women.

 

[PseuTonym]

MSFT actively hired and promoted women, they were paid on the same scale as men for their job levels.

According to the National Organization for Women, either Microsoft is a statistical anomaly with no impact on the overall statistics, or men who work at Microsoft have been underpaid along with women who work at Microsoft.

Unfortunately, there are few venues online where the question of whether or not men are underpaid at Microsoft can take place. In many high-traffic online discussion forums, such a discussion is likely to be either shut down, or moved to Economics, or Men’s Rights.

One good place to discuss concerns about men being underpaid at Microsoft could be a thread about Venezuela in the World News forum …

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