"Explore the life of the Prophet Muhammad,"

[meedo]

Its really simple.

Banu Quraiza were allied with Muslims to defend the City against all invaders. This was their pact. They breached it and sided with the pagans against Muslims . Suddenly they started sending their scouts to the area that Muslims defended it to see their rediness. They thought that the pagans were staying to fight with them against the muslims. Too bad . God send a horrible sand storm that stayed long enough to get them quitting. Now the traitors were a trap of their own deed. They chose their Judge . He was their ally. He judged their men to death and their women and children to enslavement. and so it was .

Its funny , jews aiding pagans against monothiests. Just like the Hebrews who refused to leave Egypt with Moses.

You are preferred with God because of your faith not your race. Once you act against Gods faith you loose your status of closeness to God and his judgement be on you . The jews are just people that God created. So are muslims and christians. God sides with whomever carry his messege.

bye

 

[George_Waters]

You are preferred with God because of your faith not your race. Once you act against Gods faith you loose your status of closeness to God and his judgement be on you . The jews are just people that God created. So are muslims and christians. God sides with whomever carry his messege.

We Catholics totally agree! And we carry God’s message!

Speaking of God’s message, I was told that Muslim’s believe everything that happens is the will of Allah. So the crusades, Western “imperialism”, Israel, negative opinions of Muslims and Islam, all that is the will of Allah right? So why whine and complain about it?

 

[Booklover]

Nothing to forgive. My apologies if I was short with you. To be honest I came to this forum to learn about our brothers who worshiped the God of Abraham from Muslims. What I have learned from the vast majority of Muslim members of this forum is that Islam is a sham, full of contradictions and fabricated information. I used to view Islam as a legitimate faith. Now I see it in the same light as Mormonism or the JWs. I still try to learn. I think many members of this forum have had the same or similar experiences. This is not Islamophobia, my friend; it is recognizing Islam for what it is, a lie. I do not fear it, but I will not allow the lie to continue unchallenged.

Excellent post, George!

Vickie

 

[meedo]

We Catholics totally agree! And we carry God’s message!

Speaking of God’s message, I was told that Muslim’s believe everything that happens is the will of Allah. So the crusades, Western “imperialism”, Israel, negative opinions of Muslims and Islam, all that is the will of Allah right? So why whine and complain about it?

Hi, i didnt mean you as you catholics. You can replace the word ‘‘you’’ with ‘‘one’’. Sorry my english isnt that good.

Yes Everything is the will of Allah . But Everything is also a test . Allah’s will is to put you through the test to see how strong is your faith in him. Not to succumb to defeatism .

bye

 

[Booklover]

I explored enough of Islam to know that I want nothing to do with it.

I have no problem with Muslims, as long as they leave me alone and they do not try to convert me. I believe in a sort of resurgent Truman Doctrine—you stay on your side of the wire, I’ll stay on mine. I do not wish to have any contact with their religion, their culture, or their laws.

Oil and water don’t mix, and Islam will never assimilate with Western culture. One or the other will win out and whichever one does, that culture will predominate to the detriment of the other.

I fully realize that according to the prevailing culture of political correctness, that makes me a bigot and all the rest of the labels usually applied to those like myself who persist in rendering value judgements unemcumbered by societal relativism.

So be it.

I wholeheartedly agree!

Vickie

 

[George_Waters]

Hi, i didnt mean you as you catholics. You can replace the word ‘‘you’’ with ‘‘one’’. Sorry my english isnt that good.

Yes Everything is the will of Allah . But Everything is also a test . Allah’s will is to put you through the test to see how strong is your faith in him. Not to succumb to defeatism .

bye

Your English is better than… well, as I can’t speak any language other than English you are doing great!

 

[Contarini]

God commanded it. Plus, it was an evil civilization steeped in things such as human sacrifice. But God commanding it is enough.

So your only problem with Muhammad’s actions is that you don’t think God actually commanded him to do what he did?

Sorry, George Waters, but this is very relevant. If Muhammad’s actions prove his message to be false, why don’t the actions of the Israelites prove the message of Moses and Joshua to be false?

Edwin

 

[Contarini]

Its really simple.

Banu Quraiza were allied with Muslims to defend the City against all invaders. This was their pact. They breached it and sided with the pagans against Muslims . Suddenly they started sending their scouts to the area that Muslims defended it to see their rediness. They thought that the pagans were staying to fight with them against the muslims. Too bad . God send a horrible sand storm that stayed long enough to get them quitting. Now the traitors were a trap of their own deed. They chose their Judge . He was their ally. He judged their men to death and their women and children to enslavement. and so it was .

Sounds like self-justifying propaganda to me.

What Muhammad did was an atrocity.

Edwin

 

[didymus]

Its really simple.

Banu Quraiza were allied with Muslims to defend the City against all invaders. This was their pact. They breached it and sided with the pagans against Muslims . Suddenly they started sending their scouts to the area that Muslims defended it to see their rediness. They thought that the pagans were staying to fight with them against the muslims. Too bad . God send a horrible sand storm that stayed long enough to get them quitting. Now the traitors were a trap of their own deed. They chose their Judge . He was their ally. He judged their men to death and their women and children to enslavement. and so it was .

** Its funny , jews aiding pagans against monothiests. Just like the Hebrews who refused to leave Egypt with Moses.**

bye

No, I’m willing to bet they were allying themselves with “the devil they knew” against some madamn who balsphemously claimed to be getting messages from God and managed to gain an army of followers. From what I understand Mohammed was rather bitter against the Jews because he had expected them to be natural converts to Islam but they totally rejected him.

I’m sure Mohammed’s actions had little to do with religion and everything to do with political/military necessities. He had to wipe out his enemies and secure his base in Arabia or Islam would have been strangled in the cradle.

 

[Contarini]

I’m sure Mohammed’s actions had little to do with religion and everything to do with political/military necessities.

How on earth could you be sure about this? And what makes you think that for Muhammad there was any distinction between the two? This is the deadly trap of Islam. They have no way of distinguishing, because it’s all about establishing God’s reign in the earth, and their understanding of God’s reign misses the paradox of the Cross.

Edwin

 

[Daniel_Marsh]

Aisha — 9 year-old bride
Sahih Bukhari

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah’s Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151

Sahih Muslim

Chapter 10: IT IS PERMISSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO GIVE THE HAND OF HIS DAUGHTER IN MARRIAGE EVEN WHEN SHE IS NOT FULLY GROWN UP.

'A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah’s Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. Book 8, Number 3309.

'A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Book 8, Number 3310

'A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. Book 8, Number 3311

Sunan Dawud

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr’s version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter. Book 41, Number 4915:

Narrated AbuUsamah: The tradition mentioned above (No. 4915) has also been transmitted by AbuUsamah in a similar manner through a different chain of narrators. This version has: "With good fortune. " She (Umm Ruman) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and redressed me. No one came to me suddenly except the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) in the forenoon. So they entrusted me to him. Book 41, Number 4916:

Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu’minin: When we came to Medina, the women came to me when I was playing on the swing, and my hair were up to my ears. They brought me, prepared me, and decorated me. Then they brought me to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and he took up cohabitation with me, when I was nine. Book 41, Number 4917
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1 Ibn Ishaq, The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ishaq’s Sirat Rasul Allah, Translated by A. Guillaume, Oxford University Press, Oxford, England, (Re-issued in Karachi, Pakistan, 1967, 13th impression, 1998) 1955, p. 311.

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