Family Ripped Apart

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Again. YOUR MOTHER IS A WIDOW. For those who have never gone through divorce, you may not understand this. We lost our spouses. We lost their financial help, their love, their companionship just as if they had dropped dead. But it was worse than that. WE ALSO LOST: all our memories with that person, which are now viewed through a 20/20 hindsight that makes us question everything we used to believe. We lost the ability to reminisce lovingly about them and keep their picture on the coffee table like a ‘real widow’. We didn’t get a big insurance payout. People avoid us like the plague lest they “catch divorce too.” Our children lost their family security and stability. They lost respect for a parent who may have gone completely over the bend. Trust was lost. The Courts step in and further degrade the “widow” and make her have to scramble for things that belonged to her for decades. And the worst part is the “dead body” doesn’t get buried in a clean break. The widow has to see the corpse walking around laughing and loving and sharing his new life “beyond the grave” with someone else at her physical and financial expense. As disgusting and unrecognizeably rotted he may have become to her during the divorce, he lives in an alternate world where outsiders do not see him as she does now. He is still the hero, or the nice man down the street. She and her children are the ones who quietly suffer from his abandonment.

The “widow,” for her own sanity, needs to believe that her children have not bought into this lie and taken his side like the grandma. When that happens, the widow loses her children too in a way. So she lets them know each new outrage. Talking to her children about what is really going on is sometimes the only honesty she has in her life at this point. To paper that over and tell her that topic is off limits could prevent her from moving on eventually or it could have even worse consequences, like spiralling depression or suicide. She’s been thrown away like garbage for all her years of love and service. For her children to back off now would multiply that to the breaking point.

This issue attacked the heart of the family, and it needs to be dealt with as a family, the same way an infection in the body cannot be separated from the whole body. A good doctor treats the whole patient. The children will not improve their relationship with their father by making their mother feel worse. (and yes, it’s vice versa for when the wife runs off with the cabana boy. I know that.) These adult “children” are also facing the prospect that “daddy” may start a new family and they will join the mother’s grief as she watches him treat wife #2 with a generosity or compassion she may not have gotten. They may see their father treat children #2 with a level of attention and generosity he never showed them. That hurts! This IS their business.

Because the children are mourning their father too. And their illusion of family stability, their image of their father’s character and their plans to have a Grandma and Grandpa experience for their own children. Daddy and his new Ninotchka have messed up everyone here. And only an insane person could view it all and be okay with it. Stress is the feeling that happens when one’s mind has to override the body’s desire to wring someone’s neck. And daddy is blissfully going about his new life while everyone else reels in shock and horror.
 
Things to do:
  1. Calmly tell your father “You do not show us love when you treat our mother this way. You are wrong in this. You are hurting the people who loved you.” Just repeat that calmly to him over and over when the situation arises. Remember. He does feel guilty, but he’s spilling that on other people so it won’t bother him.
  2. Tell your mother you love her and you agree that dad was wrong. And you don’t support him. She needs to hear that. Until she has processed her grief she will need to rant and lament and complain. At some point you will help her MORE by finding new things to talk about and finding ways to improve her situation. When she complains about his latest legal hijinks, that is a cry for advice on how to fix the newest problem in an overwhelming catastrophe. Your answer: What has he done now? Gosh, will he ever stop? (insert hug here.) Let’s go online and research what your real rights are here and find a new source for health insurance, etc…
  3. Pray for him to see the truth and act on it. If that is the only prayer for him you can muster, say it. If he acts on the Truth, it will benefit everyone and lead to real sorrow, contrition, apologies and reconcilation and peace.
  4. Remember that he is doing all this and has never pulled the knife out of your mother. He never said he was sorry. He instead has probably put all the blame for the relationship on her and intimated that it was her faults and failings that led him to seek love elsewhere. Until he says he is sorry and asks forgiveness, she has a knife in her back and a wound that cannot heal. I mean, even Christ got taken down from the cross eventually.
  5. Be courteous to him and his wife, not because they deserve it, but because you deserve to know you are behaving better than they did. You don’t know her background or what pains or sufferings she went through. She’s been duped by his promises too. And life may come back around and smack her in the face too. What they have is an illusion and illusions have a way of evaporating in the glare of sunlight.
  6. Don’t let Satan make you think that you don’t deserve your own union with Christ. When you receive Communion you are receiving the same Body and Blood that suffered and died for YOUR torments as HE forgave you for not knowing what you were doing all the times you crucified HIM. He just told you one thing: “Do this in memory of me.” So forgive those who don’t deserve it. Help your mother to see that also. That forgiving him and leaving him to God will help her too. He may live to see that the biggest mistake he made in life was leaving her.
Good luck. No one ever promised us a rose garden in this valley of tears.
 
First I’m very sorry to hear about your situation. I will keep you in my prayers tonight.

I just wanted to offer a comment or advice or just a suggestion on your question about forgiving your father and how to honor him. I have not been in a this situation nor one even remotely similar. But have you thought that maybe you need to stop talking to your father, or doing anything with/for him for that matter until you are able to forgive him? You did say that you don’t keep him out of certain aspects of your life out of spite to him but only because it is hard for you. And rightfully so it is hard on you. I am no psychologist but it only seems logical that you would need to take your own time out to deal with yourself on this issue before you could start to deal with him in a reasonable manner. It seems it would only make it harder to try to work things out while also dealing with him. It almost seems to me that dealing with him before you deal with your own emotions might make things worse and make you more bitter. Does what I’m saying make any sense? You need time to heal before you can go back to a normal relationship, or as normal as it can be after your situation. In that way you would be more able to honor your father during your interactions.

I hope that this helps some but I have not read all these posts so this may have been addressed several times already.

Again, I will keep you and your family in my prayers. God bless.
 
raindogg
i am so sorry to hear of your family’s pain and suffering.

i went to a conference recently and the special speaker was Immaculee Ilibagiza, a survivor of the rwandan holocaust. she has an amazing story of forgiveness that she documented in her autobiograpy. she lost her whole family in the massacre, and yet she has found peace thru forgiveness and a deep relationship with God. i just wanted to hug her after the conference, she was such an inspiration. i know her story is different from yours and she doesn’t have to interface with her family’s killers, but you might find some peace in reading her book.
 
I very much beleive she should show her mother love, compassion and understanding, but I think her mother’s problems and pain are so vast and deep she should speak with a priest or deacon or professional counselor.
Qualified trained professionals have an education and a background to help people deal with horrible situations like this. Raindogg is torn apart not and may not be able to help her mother through this.
Monica, I don’t mean to imply that you all are heartless. I’ve read too many of your posts to believe that. But the advice is somewhat cold, or would be perceived that way by the mother. Yes, the mom’s pain is vast and deep. And yes, she should talk to a priest or professional. But that has to be the mother’s choice! For a child to say “Mom, I can’t deal. Talk to a professional” is slamming a door in the mother’s face. And to be honest, I’ve been through my share of “professionals” in the years of abuse and my marriage meltdown. Most of them were about as useless as you know whats on a bull. One wanted to argue with me that there was such a thing as evil and that it was wrong to label my husband that way. Others gave me the ever-helpful “I wish I could wave a magic wand and make it all go away” as they listened to the kind of intractable problems that only a narcissist can cause to those around him. Wow. That one helped. Lady, if there were magic wands, I would have bought one years ago myself!

(For this your mom will be expected to pay $170 an hour or so, which she can add to those lawyer bills?) And quite frankly, it was way more helpful to talk to friends and people who actually knew me and were outraged on my behalf. Instead of sitting there while someone coldly analyzed me and said I had no right to be offended that my husband slept every night on the floor with my pre-pubescent daughters and had ignored his marital duties to me for years. She said I should get down there on the floor with all of them and make it a fivesome! Wow! Heres’ your $170 lady. Thanks for that advice! How about some recognition that there was something wrong with this picture!

Another told me I would be happier if I altered my belief system. (I suppose she meant throw out my pesky adherence to that outdated outmoded Catholic belief system?) Here’s your $170, lady. I won’t be seeing you again!

Professionals come to the problem with their own agendas and biases. I for one do not believe they are what your mother needs at this point.

She has lost her security. She does not need her intelligence insulted and her money taken by people who don’t know what she’s been through. She needs the people she loves to circle the wagons until she heals better.

In time, she may have less need to complain about dad. She will even get bored with it. I promise you!

A helpful way to suggest she share this with someone would be to gently ask, “have you asked Fr. So and So what he thinks about this? What does he say?” Or, “Gosh, this one is beyond my pay scale. Is there someone else who can give you better advice than I could? I don’t want to make matters worse for you.” That makes it HER choice and enlists her as an agent of her own recovery. And you aren’t abandoning her. You are acknowleging the problem is serious and needs more help. It gives her the choice to say “I’m not ready to talk to anyone yet.” Or “That is a great idea.” But you can’t push her or say “Mom, I can’t do this anymore. Find another wailing wall!” That is NOT helpful to the mom!! Trust me!

And shovelling mom onto professionals doesn’t deal with the fact that this whole divorce changes the whole family dynamic as everyone readjusts their own relationships and expectations with each other. Mom has a need to know how her children are adjusting and the kids need to see how mom is making progress spiritually and emotionally. I would suggest a diary here because that helps one see things months distant and gives better perspective. (i.e., Gosh, five months ago mom was barely getting out of bed. Today she went to bridge club!)

If any counselling is done, a good way to do it would be to go with mom as family counselling. Remember, that generation may have some built-in biases against professional counselling. It’s not for everyone. If you are with mom, you have an idea of how she is being treated or whether someone else is minimizing things for her and blowing her off.

I’ve been there… when you come out feeling worse than you went in, it’s no good! And counselors don’t love her.
 
raindogg,

One question I forgot to ask: are you male or female? That is a critical aspect that cannot be overlooked in examining the dynamics of this. (I was operating under the assumption that you were male, please correct me if I am wrong).
 
My dilemma is, all the bitterness is eating me up inside. Its taking a huge toll on the family. I know that I am supposed to forgive. But I argue with myself that he is not deserving of forgiveness. Our Family Holidays used to be big events, now there are less than half the people at the celebrations. My first thought was to just rebuild the family unit between myself and my sisters. But how does one so easily dismiss the last 35 years? Also, scripture tells us to forgive and to get out the root of bitterness. But I struggle with this daily. How do I forgive my father for what he has done? I don’t feel I can ever accept him back into my life and especially not this girl who is younger than my youngest sister. How can I have them around my children? What kind of example is that?

Anyone have any advice for my struggle?
Ask God to give you the ability to forgive. He ability to forgive is unlimited and he will give that ability to you, too, if you ask for it in faith. He once worked a miracle of forgiveness in my life.

Also, I know of a similar situation that took place many years ago, when the husband was sent to a foreign country, fell in love with a woman he met there, and married her. I don’t think his US wife and daughter ever really forgave him, but the bitterness hurt them more than it hurt him. His sons were able to have a civil, eventually loving, relationship with their father and his new wife. But all of that took time.

Remember the commandment to honor* both* your mother and your father.

Start by deciding to behave in a civil and polite manner toward him, no matter what you feel. If the subject comes up, don’t condone his actions, but do so in love and with respect rather than in self-righteousness.
 
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