Fate & Free Will, Human Uniqueness

[CRATUS]

I have bothered my family and friends and have asked this question a million times. As much as I believe in free-will I believe in fate. I read a great article by a Catholic army wife stating not everyone is bright red rose. I strongly believe in fate. As much people have free-will I think God may bless some more than others. I read the biography of Liz Taylor. I immediately believed she was born to be a star. She had double layered eyelashes ( a beautiful mutation), violet eyes and black hair naturally. I observe people. There are some people it takes them years to mature or master a skill. There are children are precocious. As much as I believe in people can make the best out of their situation. Some people survive through abusive relationships, while others do not. Are they to blame? I have listened to different stories of people’s relationship with the most High. Some people struggle with very few sins, while others fail often yet BOTH LOVE GOD THE SAME. There are people who have a presence about them you must respect and love. They can easily make people fall in love with - Marilyn Monroe. There are people who are very kind, but for some reason they lack charisma, and remain unnoticed despite their virtues.

 

[Valhk]

I have bothered my family and friends and have asked this question a million times. As much as I believe in free-will I believe in fate. I read a great article by a Catholic army wife stating not everyone is bright red rose. I strongly believe in fate. As much people have free-will I think God may bless some more than others. I read the biography of Liz Taylor. I immediately believed she was born to be a star. She had double layered eyelashes ( a beautiful mutation), violet eyes and black hair naturally. I observe people. There are some people it takes them years to mature or master a skill. There are children are precocious. As much as I believe in people can make the best out of their situation. Some people survive through abusive relationships, while others do not. Are they to blame? I have listened to different stories of people’s relationship with the most High. Some people struggle with very few sins, while others fail often yet BOTH LOVE GOD THE SAME. There are people who have a presence about them you must respect and love. They can easily make people fall in love with - Marilyn Monroe. There are people who are very kind, but for some reason they lack charisma, and remain unnoticed despite their virtues.

What was the question?

 

[kristos]

I have bothered my family and friends and have asked this question a million times. As much as I believe in free-will I believe in fate. I read a great article by a Catholic army wife stating not everyone is bright red rose. I strongly believe in fate. As much people have free-will I think God may bless some more than others. I read the biography of Liz Taylor. I immediately believed she was born to be a star. She had double layered eyelashes ( a beautiful mutation), violet eyes and black hair naturally. I observe people. There are some people it takes them years to mature or master a skill. There are children are precocious. As much as I believe in people can make the best out of their situation. Some people survive through abusive relationships, while others do not. Are they to blame? I have listened to different stories of people’s relationship with the most High. Some people struggle with very few sins, while others fail often yet BOTH LOVE GOD THE SAME. There are people who have a presence about them you must respect and love. They can easily make people fall in love with - Marilyn Monroe. There are people who are very kind, but for some reason they lack charisma, and remain unnoticed despite their virtues.

Some are born confident, bright , ambitious, self confidence is unavoidable, others are not bright, are self conscious, scrupulous, have social anxiety, despair as a faithful companion, self confidence will forever elude them. God’s love is not a fair thing. We’re God’s little social experiment, if I fail the test, I’m a Jewish man under Hitler’s power for ever and ever in eternity, whereas the great mind behind this little social experiment I am an unwilling participant in risks nothing. Nothing is greater than God’s love of himself IMO. Without God, this world would be livable, only the prospect of misery eternal makes it sordid, Nazis’ concentration camps were a pale reflection of what a God of love has in store for those who don’t love him. The real problem with existence lies in the afterlife, otherwise at worst it’ll be 80-90 years of a ****** life, followed by unconscious bliss. Hell with its misery and hopelessness is a nightmare that befits the stature of God, lover of himself. But I digress.

 

[littlestsouls2]

Some are born confident, bright , ambitious, self confidence is unavoidable, others are not bright, are self conscious, scrupulous, have social anxiety, despair as a faithful companion, self confidence will forever elude them. God’s love is not a fair thing. We’re God’s little social experiment, if I fail the test, I’m a Jewish man under Hitler’s power for ever and ever in eternity, whereas the great mind behind this little social experiment I am an unwilling participant in risks nothing. Nothing is greater than God’s love of himself IMO. Without God, this world would be livable, only the prospect of misery eternal makes it sordid, Nazis’ concentration camps were a pale reflection of what a God of love has in store for those who don’t love him. The real problem with existence lies in the afterlife, otherwise at worst it’ll be 80-90 years of a ****** life, followed by unconscious bliss. Hell with its misery and hopelessness is a nightmare that befits the stature of God, lover of himself. But I digress.

‘The Passion and Death of Jesus Christ’ (written by St. Alphonsus Liguori): archive.org/stream/passiondeathofje00ligu#page/n9/mode/2up

Many of the saints had visions of Hell; but their love for God was in no way diminished, for they were profoundly enlightened as to the knowledge of the truth, the goodness, the wisdom and the justice of God, which reluctantly punishes only those who persevere in their wickedness.

A French priest writes: "Jesus appeared to St. Catherine of Racconigi with Our Lady and many saints, all clad in mourning. He said: ‘Ah, how can you expect Me not to manifest My sorrow at the sight of so many souls hastening towards damnation? Do you not see the ingratitude of My people, whom I have ransomed with My Blood? I am a precious treasure, the supreme and eternal Good; nevertheless most of mankind think more of the wretched goods of this earth… They think more of their honour, of their houses, and even of their dogs, than of My glory, My Church, or My faithful servants.’

 

[thistle]

I have bothered my family and friends and have asked this question a million times. As much as I believe in free-will I believe in fate. I read a great article by a Catholic army wife stating not everyone is bright red rose. I strongly believe in fate. As much people have free-will I think God may bless some more than others. I read the biography of Liz Taylor. I immediately believed she was born to be a star. She had double layered eyelashes ( a beautiful mutation), violet eyes and black hair naturally. I observe people. There are some people it takes them years to mature or master a skill. There are children are precocious. As much as I believe in people can make the best out of their situation. Some people survive through abusive relationships, while others do not. Are they to blame? I have listened to different stories of people’s relationship with the most High. Some people struggle with very few sins, while others fail often yet BOTH LOVE GOD THE SAME. There are people who have a presence about them you must respect and love. They can easily make people fall in love with - Marilyn Monroe. There are people who are very kind, but for some reason they lack charisma, and remain unnoticed despite their virtues.

In Christianity there is no such thing as fate. It does not exist.

 

[Nihilist]

I have bothered my family and friends and have asked this question a million times. As much as I believe in free-will I believe in fate. I read a great article by a Catholic army wife stating not everyone is bright red rose. I strongly believe in fate. As much people have free-will I think God may bless some more than others. I read the biography of Liz Taylor. I immediately believed she was born to be a star. She had double layered eyelashes ( a beautiful mutation), violet eyes and black hair naturally. I observe people. There are some people it takes them years to mature or master a skill. There are children are precocious. As much as I believe in people can make the best out of their situation. Some people survive through abusive relationships, while others do not. Are they to blame? I have listened to different stories of people’s relationship with the most High. Some people struggle with very few sins, while others fail often yet BOTH LOVE GOD THE SAME. There are people who have a presence about them you must respect and love. They can easily make people fall in love with - Marilyn Monroe. There are people who are very kind, but for some reason they lack charisma, and remain unnoticed despite their virtues.

It is obvious that some things are determined for us- when and where we are born, our talents, appearance, etc. Sure, some people seem to get a better deal than others. That part of is which is genuinely free is what we really are- everything which is determined for us, is not really ‘us’. If ‘you’ cannot help committing a sin (e.g. say a Tourette’s person couldn’t stop themselves from cursing, or a kelptomania couldn’t stop stealing), it is not really ‘you’ that is doing it- but something which is other than the real self.

Epictetus the Stoic said much the same thing. Those things which are not under our control should be indifferent to us, since, properly speaking, they are not ours.

Perhaps ‘fate’ is quite dominant in how our lives go- given factors beyond our control (our opportunities, abilities, etc.) are certainly important. But who cares? Our mortal lives all share one final destination- the grave. It’s just variations in timing and the path by which we get there.

Only the soul- the free part of us- goes on.

 

[Nihilist]

Some are born confident, bright , ambitious, self confidence is unavoidable, others are not bright, are self conscious, scrupulous, have social anxiety, despair as a faithful companion, self confidence will forever elude them. God’s love is not a fair thing. We’re God’s little social experiment, if I fail the test, I’m a Jewish man under Hitler’s power for ever and ever in eternity, whereas the great mind behind this little social experiment I am an unwilling participant in risks nothing. Nothing is greater than God’s love of himself IMO. Without God, this world would be livable, only the prospect of misery eternal makes it sordid, Nazis’ concentration camps were a pale reflection of what a God of love has in store for those who don’t love him. The real problem with existence lies in the afterlife, otherwise at worst it’ll be 80-90 years of a ****** life, followed by unconscious bliss. Hell with its misery and hopelessness is a nightmare that befits the stature of God, lover of himself. But I digress.

You seem bitter. I gather you have had some bad experiences.

Christ says, “Blessed are you who mourn, for you shall be consoled.” No one who has been tormented in this life will go to Hell- Christ promises it. “Whoever hates his life in this world, will inherit eternal life.” So, don’t worry about Hell.

You are right about the prospect of “80-90 years of a ****** life”. I believe it is the reality for most people- although many don’t like to admit it, because it makes you seem like a failure. But, you can be sure of avoiding Hell- if you don’t love this world, and help at those who need help, and avoid sin.

 

[kristos]

‘The Passion and Death of Jesus Christ’ (written by St. Alphonsus Liguori): archive.org/stream/passiondeathofje00ligu#page/n9/mode/2up

Many of the saints had visions of Hell; but their love for God was in no way diminished, for they were profoundly enlightened as to the knowledge of the truth, the goodness, the wisdom and the justice of God, which reluctantly punishes only those who persevere in their wickedness.

A French priest writes: "Jesus appeared to St. Catherine of Racconigi with Our Lady and many saints, all clad in mourning. He said: ‘Ah, how can you expect Me not to manifest My sorrow at the sight of so many souls hastening towards damnation? Do you not see the ingratitude of My people, whom I have ransomed with My Blood? I am a precious treasure, the supreme and eternal Good; nevertheless most of mankind think more of the wretched goods of this earth… They think more of their honour, of their houses, and even of their dogs, than of My glory, My Church, or My faithful servants.’

It’s funny God should make us a certain way and be puzzled as to why we follow the dictates of that nature. God doesn’t act against his nature, neither can he, but he demands that from us, and makes it a sine qua non condition to not be in utter misery for eternity.

I completely disagree with the idea that the quality of 80-90 years of this life does not really matter because the grave is the end. Just like God will base my eternal fate on how he judges my terrestrial life, likewise I will judge the quality of his fatherhood and godhood based on how life has been and how silent he has been and how he has turned a deaf ear to every cry for healing and happiness. I will also remember how he made damn sure all the psychological and cognitive failings that have essentially ruined my life were faithfully and fearfully passed on to my child. Sometimes, the thought of ever being close to God is very much like the thougth of ever being close and intimate with a traitor, more specifically of someone who has betrayed me. There was this 80s song, the lyrics were: “Don’t expect nothing (sic) from life, but everything we’ve got to give it”. Life and God are pretty similar, actually, both bleak and unrelenting, and heartless. I hate blood pudding, but I do know for a fact some think it’s a delicacy.

 

[kristos]

You seem bitter.** I gather you have had some bad experiences**.

Christ says, “Blessed are you who mourn, for you shall be consoled.” No one who has been tormented in this life will go to Hell- Christ promises it. “Whoever hates his life in this world, will inherit eternal life.” So, don’t worry about Hell.

You are right about the prospect of “80-90 years of a ****** life”. I believe it is the reality for most people- although many don’t like to admit it, because it makes you seem like a failure. But, you can be sure of avoiding Hell- if you don’t love this world, and help at those who need help, and avoid sin.

It’s rather having social anxiety and being an introvert in a world made for social and outgoing people, it’s having a slow brain, virtually no capacity to learn in a world where not being able to learn will guarantee stagnation and heartbreak. It’s realizing I fall short in ever aspect of life, that people tend not to be thrilled with who I am. I am a loser, that’s who i am. A grotesque and pathetic human being with the charisma of the main character in the movie “The Man Who Wasn’t There”. An immortal soul is a tragedy for someone like me. Insinuating that God loves me is beyond ridiculous. I had to be a tormented, at times lonely, self conscious loser because God decreed from eternity that I was going to be. I am around because a God of love said I was going to be around. God, lover of drama. There is no stupid point in my being around except for God to make a point or to be glorified. To make it worse, God is prescient. What’s not to like about him…

 

[Nihilist]

It’s rather having social anxiety and being an introvert in a world made for social and outgoing people, it’s having a slow brain, virtually no capacity to learn in a world where not being able to learn will guarantee stagnation and heartbreak. It’s realizing I fall short in ever aspect of life, that people tend not to be thrilled with who I am. I am a loser, that’s who i am. A grotesque and pathetic human being with the charisma of the main character in the movie “The Man Who Wasn’t There”. An immortal soul is a tragedy for someone like me. Insinuating that God loves me is beyond ridiculous. I had to be a tormented, at times lonely, self conscious loser because God decreed from eternity that I was going to be. I am around because a God of love said I was going to be around. God, lover of drama. There is no stupid point in my being around except for God to make a point or to be glorified. To make it worse, God is prescient. What’s not to like about him…

I think about 90% of the population feel that way, but most are too scared to admit it. Pretty much everyone is and feels inadequate, to varying degrees.

Try to practise detachment. Just think of life as a flow of time- once it flows by, we’re done with it, and it will never come back. That is a great source of consolation.

Remember, things are reversed in Heaven. There, the poor will be rich, those who mourn will be comforted. Those who hunger will be satisfied. But alas for those who are rich now- they have already had their consolation. Also for those who are satisfied now will go hungry. Those who laugh now will mourn and weep.

Regarding social anxiety- in the end, why give a damn what other people think of oneself? The whole social complex is fundamentally meaningless. Its praise and condemnation are nothing more than empty wind. Just think of it is atoms swirling in the void. What is pleasure? Certain electrical impulses in the mass of chemicals called ‘my body’. What is pain? The same thing. The difference between someone saying “I love you”, and “I hate you”, is just some air atoms vibrating in different ways. To worry about such things is pointless.

Whenever I feel bad, I find a good mantra is “Everything is nothing to me”. Like in the Psalm- where it says the whole universe is a speck of dust in the scales, and all the peoples nothing and less than nothing. And in the context of eternity- this life is drop in the ocean, a moment, a grain of sand- as another Psalm says. But our true context IS eternity- and this is precisely what permits the Christian nihilist to say- “This world, this life, is nothing to me”.

 

[littlestsouls2]

It’s funny God should make us a certain way and be puzzled as to why we follow the dictates of that nature. God doesn’t act against his nature, neither can he, but he demands that from us, and makes it a sine qua non condition to not be in utter misery for eternity.

I completely disagree with the idea that the quality of 80-90 years of this life does not really matter because the grave is the end. Just like God will base my eternal fate on how he judges my terrestrial life, likewise I will judge the quality of his fatherhood and godhood based on how life has been and how silent he has been and how he has turned a deaf ear to every cry for healing and happiness. I will also remember how he made damn sure all the psychological and cognitive failings that have essentially ruined my life were faithfully and fearfully passed on to my child. Sometimes, the thought of ever being close to God is very much like the thougth of ever being close and intimate with a traitor, more specifically of someone who has betrayed me. There was this 80s song, the lyrics were: “Don’t expect nothing (sic) from life, but everything we’ve got to give it”. Life and God are pretty similar, actually, both bleak and unrelenting, and heartless. I hate blood pudding, but I do know for a fact some think it’s a delicacy.

God knows that we are weak; He does not demand the impossible. And we can be sure that He will supply for whatever He asks of us, because without Him we can do nothing.

What is required of us for our salvation is very little compared with the constant interior sufferings of Jesus, which were manifested exteriorly in the Passion. Even though God cannot act contrary to His nature, it is also true that the intense sufferings He endured were repugnant to His human nature (except insofar as they satisfied the immense desires of His love, which needed to spend itself, so to speak).

I am sorry to hear that you have endured certain sufferings. I do not presume to know how much you have suffered… I firmly definitely believe that God wants us to be happy, and I believe that He gives us countless proofs of this. But, from what I have come to learn - especially through the writings and examples of the saints (who suffered very much) - the principle desire of God’s love is that we are united to Him. He is the Source of all Goodness; outside of Him there is only darkness, error and misery. It is for this reason that He permits or sends sufferings. He wants us to repent, to rely on His grace, to avoid sin, to be detached from the sinful pleasures of this life etc. We do not know the exact reason(s) for which God sends/permits His sufferings in relation to particular people - (It would be pointless trying to work it out) - but we do know that the Cross, borne willingly, leads to Paradise.

One day St. Gertrude asked Jesus why He had allowed her to be afflicted by certain people. He gave her this response: “When a father desires to punish his child, the rod can make no resistance to his hand. It is therefore My will that My elect shall never lay the blame on men for their trials, but that they shall rather consider My fatherly affection, which would never suffer the slightest breath of wind contrary to them if I had not in view the eternal salvation which they should receive in reward. Considering this, they should rather have compassion on those who, while contributing to their virtue, incur guilt for their own selves.”

All of us have a cross to bear, or even several crosses. Blessed Margaret of Castello was blind and left abandoned by her parents; St. Rita suffered much from her abusive husband; St. Padre Pio suffered from humiliations, mockery and derision. The list could go on indefinitely. The saints tell us how to transform our sufferings into sources of grace and merit. They would simply meditate daily on the sufferings of Jesus, then they would accept all their sufferings out of love for Him, uniting their sufferings to His.

Jesus to Sr. Mary of the Holy Trinity: “I loved suffering, I the Man of Sorrows; I chose it because it makes reparation for sins when it is offered with love… when suffering is joined to love, the proofs of love given through suffering are a true reparation offered to God. It is giving God something that He does not have in His Heaven. Therefore, I chose suffering so that all My creatures, even the most miserable, like yourself, might have something precious to offer to God.”

You might like to read the link that I posted earlier. It is very beautiful.

Take care.

 

[kristos]

God knows that we are weak; He does not demand the impossible. And we can be sure that He will supply for whatever He asks of us, because without Him we can do nothing.

What is required of us for our salvation is very little compared with the constant interior sufferings of Jesus, which were manifested exteriorly in the Passion. Even though God cannot act contrary to His nature, it is also true that the intense sufferings He endured were repugnant to His human nature (except insofar as they satisfied the immense desires of His love, which needed to spend itself, so to speak).

I am sorry to hear that you have endured certain sufferings. I do not presume to know how much you have suffered… I firmly definitely believe that God wants us to be happy, and I believe that He gives us countless proofs of this. But, from what I have come to learn - especially through the writings and examples of the saints (who suffered very much) - the principle desire of God’s love is that we are united to Him. He is the Source of all Goodness; outside of Him there is only darkness, error and misery. It is for this reason that He permits or sends sufferings. He wants us to repent, to rely on His grace, to avoid sin, to be detached from the sinful pleasures of this life etc. We do not know the exact reason(s) for which God sends/permits His sufferings in relation to particular people - (It would be pointless trying to work it out) - but we do know that the Cross, borne willingly, leads to Paradise.

One day St. Gertrude asked Jesus why He had allowed her to be afflicted by certain people. He gave her this response: “When a father desires to punish his child, the rod can make no resistance to his hand. It is therefore My will that My elect shall never lay the blame on men for their trials, but that they shall rather consider My fatherly affection, which would never suffer the slightest breath of wind contrary to them if I had not in view the eternal salvation which they should receive in reward. Considering this, they should rather have compassion on those who, while contributing to their virtue, incur guilt for their own selves.”

All of us have a cross to bear, or even several crosses. Blessed Margaret of Castello was blind and left abandoned by her parents; St. Rita suffered much from her abusive husband; St. Padre Pio suffered from humiliations, mockery and derision. The list could go on indefinitely. The saints tell us how to transform our sufferings into sources of grace and merit. They would simply meditate daily on the sufferings of Jesus, then they would accept all their sufferings out of love for Him, uniting their sufferings to His.

Jesus to Sr. Mary of the Holy Trinity: “I loved suffering, I the Man of Sorrows; I chose it because it makes reparation for sins when it is offered with love… when suffering is joined to love, the proofs of love given through suffering are a true reparation offered to God. It is giving God something that He does not have in His Heaven. Therefore, I chose suffering so that all My creatures, even the most miserable, like yourself, might have something precious to offer to God.”

You might like to read the link that I posted earlier. It is very beautiful.

Take care.

  You know, when you live in Minnesota and absolutely hate the cold winters, Florida, and a host of other states (or even countries) are available. If you live in a socialist country, and if you do have talents and gifts, you can move to a more capitalist country and make a nice life for yourself without having to carry dead wood with you. From God and his (shabby) system of dolorism (yeah, God gets a huge kick out of suffering, I got that), there is no escape. I am simply a mediocre human being, an idiot not "carefully and wonderfully made", i had my share of suffering, I simply lost at the genetic lottery. But to escape a mortifying state is what i want to do, but not only did God say "no", he made damn sure even my own child could not escape the pains, loneliness and despair I had to endure ("love you, God" :wave:). 

      God is this lousy father I'm forced to call dad, he's a clueless character who insists I live with pain, and that's like his best demonstration of how much he loves me. Eternity looks grim for those who see God as the tyrant he is. God won't lose sleep or his sublime serenity over a couple of million of people's despair, will he?:thumbsup: Bad news: both God and my stupid soul are immortal. Praise the Most High. I'm very happy for those who enjoy the taste and look of blood pudding, but it repulses me. Not unlike God, to be quite honest.  So, God loved me so much that giving me life to hate him, myself and life looked like fun. I just wanted a reasonable share of human happiness, for Christ's sake. God of lack, poverty and shabbiness, I bless you. 


   "God of the impossible, do something smart for once and uncreate me." Thank you.

 

[Aloysium]

. . . God of lack, poverty and shabbiness, I bless you.

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Whoop-tee-doo! right?
Faced with the illusoriness of the world one can yearn for the illusion.
When the complacent are in hell, they will envy you for the truth that is being revealed to you.
Love your neighbour: we all need that, and that is all we need.

 

[kristos]

Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of Heaven. Whoop-tee-doo! right?
Faced with the illusoriness of the world one can yearn for the illusion.
When the complacent are in hell, they will envy you for the truth that is being revealed to you.
Love your neighbour: we all need that, and that is all we need.

I’d choose non existence over 80-90 years of anxiety, loneliness, unfulfilled aspirations and stagnation. If that’s God’s unreasonable price to pay in order to be in the presence of his Highness, then I’d like to be able to abort myself from God’s silly game. If God is happy, all the best for him, but I’d much rather he hadn’t messed with me to begin with. I simply belong in non existence. Non existence, for me, would have been a definitive win-win. Never once hearing the word “God” is certainly alluring. Never ever, not once, hearing of God’s dead love for me would have been so refreshing. Never feeling the weight of God’s satanic will on my life and destiny would have been the best.

 

[Nihilist]

I’d choose non existence over 80-90 years of anxiety, loneliness, unfulfilled aspirations and stagnation. If that’s God’s unreasonable price to pay in order to be in the presence of his Highness, then I’d like to be able to abort myself from God’s silly game. If God is happy, all the best for him, but I’d much rather he hadn’t messed with me to begin with. I simply belong in non existence. Non existence, for me, would have been a definitive win-win. Never once hearing the word “God” is certainly alluring. Never ever, not once, hearing of God’s dead love for me would have been so refreshing. Never feeling the weight of God’s satanic will on my life and destiny would have been the best.

A few things that might clarify the situation. The ‘god’ of this world, of the pain and futility of this life, the world and all its vanities- is actually identified with Satan in the Gospel of John and the letters of Paul. I think it’s him you’re angry with. He is the Father of Lies.

The true God is our origin and final destination. Yet, we come from non-being and after we die, return to non-being. It is therefore not unreasonable to think of the “True God” as a metaphor for non-being…for which every heart secretly yearns.

I’d prefer to say that Non-Being is a metaphor for God- and thus avoid heresy.

 

[kristos]

A few things that might clarify the situation. The ‘god’ of this world, of the pain and futility of this life, the world and all its vanities- is actually identified with Satan in the Gospel of John and the letters of Paul. I think it’s him you’re angry with. He is the Father of Lies.

The true God is our origin and final destination. Yet, we come from non-being and after we die, return to non-being. It is therefore not unreasonable to think of the “True God” as a metaphor for non-being…for which every heart secretly yearns.

I’d prefer to say that Non-Being is a metaphor for God- and thus avoid heresy.

Actually, i kind of like the guy (meaning Satan). I can take the Satan path and blame all my miseries, misfortunes, shortcomings on him, but God did a very poor job of protecting me. After the beating i took, you’d think a good being, actually anyone half decent, would want to heal me, tend to my “wounds”. Not with God, I’m served God’s same old tired dish of mystification. God is very liberal in his giving of suffering, he keeps wanting to shower me with problems, worries, disappointments, God being creator of Satan would be the grandfather of lies aka “I love you so, so much it almost hurts me, i love you beyond your wildest imagination (yawn), but me removing whatever is poisoning your life or your desire to be, sorry my darling child, you are barking up the wrong tree”. Satan may be a raging Pitbull, God is the heartless father who looks the other way.