Father Weslin arrested - I'm fuming

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Do you honestly think the trespassing law should no longer be?
Do you honestly think he was protesting the trespassing law?

Obviously, he was engaging in some good, old-fashioned civil disobedience (defined as a “refusal to obey civil laws in an effort to induce change in governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means”).

Praying a rosary is about as nonviolent as it gets.
 
A university is not the owner’s backyard. Different standards should - and probably do, in theory - apply…
Yes, but even in my backyard, I don’t have the secret service protecting my home. There is a reason. People have historically been out to harm our Presidents. They MUST be strict about things like this.
 
Because he was invited. Hello!
Precisely. Fr. Weslin, and others, were arrested so that Notre Dame University could celebrate, decorate and elevate Obama in all tranquility.

If it sounds upside down, it’s because it is.
 
Precisely. Fr. Weslin, and others, were arrested so that Notre Dame University could celebrate, decorate and elevate Obama in all tranquility.

If it sounds upside down, it’s because it is.
No. They were arrested because they were tresspassing.
 
There’s a reason this is in family life, and I promise I’ll get to it.

Father Weslin was arrested at at Notre Dame for holding an anti-abortion protest. That’s not exactly what this is about. I’m angry enough about that.

What upsets me the most is, having seen the footage, we’re watching an eighty-year-old priest who has done no harm to anyone, no gross pictures, no fake blood, no fake fetuses, nothing - just a cross he had on his shoulders - was being dragged off in handcuffs.

I know old people can be violent and sometimes need to be handled, since if they’re not handled they can and do sometimes kill police officers.

This is insane, though! Fr. Weslin wasn’t resisting. I’m watching this poor old man singing Ave Maria as he’s being lead away, and it wasn’t an easy arrest, though nobody hurt him, Thank God!

I’m angry. It’s one thing if there were a radical pro-life idiot threatening to blow up abortion clinics, splashing fake blood on people the way anti-fur folks sometimes do, carrying guns, stuff like that. That, I can accept as being a danger. Police, who are doing their jobs and have to leave their personal beliefs at home, can be hurt or killed. Likewise, confused young women who need counciling can be hurt or emotioanlly scarred. And a truely ignorant doctor, who might otherwise come around, would be destroyed in the blast.

But this was nothing like that, and there was nothing the least bit fair about this old man’s treatment. He was on Catholic property, addressing an issue, and not doing any harm.

Everyone involved in that arrest should be ashamed.
This is why freedom of speech must be defended by all peace and freedom loving people in the world.
Is it not written in the human rights and your own constitution that freedom of speech is garanteed?
 
Of course not. But he was breaking the law of trespassing. That’s what I meant.
Breaking the law of trespassing “in an effort to induce change in governmental policy (specifically, President Obama’s pro-abortion policies), characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means” is precisely the sort of law that the civilly disobedient disobey.

To trespass is to enter unlawfully (i.e. not permitted by law, not legal, not legitimate) upon the property of another. This is a rather selectively-enforced law, is it not? How many times do you see someone actually arrested for cutting across a corner parking lot or corner gas station, to avoid a traffic light at an intersection (certainly an unlawful reason for entering the parking lot or gas station in the first place)? How many times do you see someone actually arrested for entering a parking lot via one street and leaving the parking lot via the next street over, to avoid having to go all the way around the block if one were to stay on city streets? When was the last time prior to – or since – commencement that someone was arrested for trespassing on the Notre Dame campus?

Or did Obama honestly think he had reason to fear anyone praying the Rosary?
 
Breaking the law of trespassing “in an effort to induce change in governmental policy (specifically, President Obama’s pro-abortion policies), characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means” is precisely the sort of law that the civilly disobedient disobey.

To trespass is to enter unlawfully (i.e. not permitted by law, not legal, not legitimate) upon the property of another. This is a rather selectively-enforced law, is it not? How many times do you see someone actually arrested for cutting across a corner parking lot or corner gas station, to avoid a traffic light at an intersection (certainly an unlawful reason for entering the parking lot or gas station in the first place)? How many times do you see someone actually arrested for entering a parking lot via one street and leaving the parking lot via the next street over, to avoid having to go all the way around the block if one were to stay on city streets? When was the last time prior to – or since – commencement that someone was arrested for trespassing on the Notre Dame campus?

Or did Obama honestly think he had reason to fear anyone praying the Rosary?
You’re right…it is a selectively enforced law, as it should be. It is up to the owner of the property as to who they want on their property. I may not mind if neighborhood kids cut through my yard. If I don’t mind, I will not enforce the trespassing law. It is my right to allow them on my property. But if I didn’t want them on my property, I should be able to say so. Selective enforcing, maybe, but should it be any other way?
 
The link in post #7 of this thread states, among other things, the following:
Bishop John D’Arcy helped Notre Dame students protesting the president’s visit kick off an all-night prayer vigil Saturday night, leading them in prayer for more than 20 minutes.
…Meanwhile, 19 protesters were arrested Saturday on trespassing charges and four also faced a charge of resisting law enforcement. A university spokesman said none of those arrested were students.
…University spokesman Dennis Brown said there were no reports of protests on campus at any of the ceremonies held by various schools, centers and institutes. For the most part, the only difference on campus was the heightened security for Obama’s visit, he said.
Which begs the question… was it Notre Dame that didn’t want protestors on the property? or the White House?

Bishop D’Arcy led protestors in prayer for 20 minutes… why wasn’t he arrested but Fr. Weslin was?
 
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