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filius_Immacula
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The church has never declared Anyone in hell, yet Fatima claims many go there. How can this be reconciled
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These seem to be two separate issues and in my opinion, there’s nothing to reconcile. The Church rightly avoids speculating about a specific person being in hell. Neither do any of the messages from Fatima as far as I know. The Church does teach that hell exists and teaches us why people are condemned to hell. I believe that the messages at Fatima talk about many (but specifically who) go to hell. Do you see the difference?
Additionally, the Bible makes some pretty strong statements about hell.
Mt 25:40-46
40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ 46* And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
2 Th 1:7-9
and to grant rest along with us to you who are undergoing afflictions, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his mighty angels,8 in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.9 These will pay the penalty of eternal ruin, separated from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power,
Mt 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Additionally, the Bible makes some pretty strong statements about hell.
Mt 25:40-46
40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ 46* And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
2 Th 1:7-9
and to grant rest along with us to you who are undergoing afflictions, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his mighty angels,8 in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.9 These will pay the penalty of eternal ruin, separated from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power,
Mt 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
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Catholic1954
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Fatima is still private revelation and not bound by the Church. We are free to believe or not believe in approved private revelation, but that does not mean it is part of the doctrine of the Church.The church has never declared Anyone in hell, yet Fatima claims many go there. How can this be reconciled
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filius_Immacula
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actually it isn’t just specific people but, people period. the church has never said anyone has or will go to hellThese seem to be two separate issues and in my opinion, there’s nothing to reconcile. The Church rightly avoids speculating about a specific person being in hell. Neither do any of the messages from Fatima as far as I know. The Church does teach that hell exists and teaches us why people are condemned to hell. I believe that the messages at Fatima talk about many (but specifically who) go to hell. Do you see the difference?
Additionally, the Bible makes some pretty strong statements about hell.
Mt 25:40-46
40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ 41 Then he will say to those at his left hand, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels; 42 for I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see thee hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to thee?’ 45 Then he will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it not to one of the least of these, you did it not to me.’ 46* And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
2 Th 1:7-9
and to grant rest along with us to you who are undergoing afflictions, at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his mighty angels,8 in blazing fire, inflicting punishment on those who do not acknowledge God and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.9 These will pay the penalty of eternal ruin, separated from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his power,
Mt 7:13 “Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
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JerryZ
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I would be careful in going beyond what the Church actually teaches.actually it isn’t just specific people but, people period. the church has never said anyone has or will go to hell
Only GOD can judge people and therefore the Church does not pronounce any individual to be hell bound. However the Church has never stated that NO ONE is in hell either. And the reason is simple. Jesus told us, there ARE already people in hell.
Hence hell is a distinct possibility. And as a possibility we should guard ourself in choosing the wide path that leads us to destruction, as admonished AGAIN by Jesus.
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TheSurvivor
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Satan? He knew more than any human can how unhappy he would be yet he chose Hell.actually it isn’t just specific people but, people period. the church has never said anyone has or will go to hell
For the Church to say a specific person is in Hell would be kind of like the FDA saying fried chicken tastes good, it is not their job.
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Bob_Crowley
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The church tries to be faithful to the command by Christ about judging others -The church has never declared Anyone in hell, yet Fatima claims many go there. How can this be reconciled
Matthew 7:1 NIV
By declaring someone is in Hell, the church has effectively judged that person.Do not judge, or you too will be judged.
By the same token, the official statements of the Church are always measured, and never name anyone. Ever noticed that the Church never condemns a politician’s acts by that person’s name? This is despite the fact we all know who a particular appeal or warning might apply to.
This doesn’t mean the church doesn’t believe there’s nobody in hell. I"m pretty sure my father is there for a start, going on a private revelation the night he died. I’ve mentioned this heaps of times, but the night he died he appeared in my room. He started with an apology for the way he’d treated me, we argued and talked, and at the end he gave this absolutely terrifying scream and then just disappeared. But it was also obvious something was coming for him.
Which is why I get a bit cynical about the claim that Hell is merely being the absence of God. It’s a bit more vicious than that if his reaction was anything to go by.
It was his choice, but you’d never get the Church to say so. I’ll say so, but only because I knew him, how he treated his family, and I saw what happened the night he died. I was the only one in our family who had the experience by the way, but then I think I could claim I copped the brunt of his deliberate and vindictive cruelty for 20 years. He completely destroyed my confidence, and he did it deliberately, as he admitted when he turned up in my room.
So some (many?) people are in Hell, and for what it’s worth, I accept the visions of the three children at Fatima. When something like that is coupled with 70,000 witnesses saying the sun danced, when local atheists at the time were terrified out of their wits, when the ground and their clothes dried suddenly requiring the same energy as a ten megaton nuclear warhead yet without the slightest discomfort, and when people could stare at the sun for minutes on end without eye damage, something was going on.
Yet the Church tries to avoid being condemned as judgemental, and so passes judgement on no-one.
Even Christ claimed He judged no-one, but left the judgement to the Father. Mind you He had some harsh warnings for some people.
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ericc
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Did Fatima named a single person in hell?The church has never declared Anyone in hell, yet Fatima claims many go there. How can this be reconciled
Fatima didn’t say anything that is not already known in the Bible. The Bible is littered with people thrown into the lake of fire and weeping and gnashing of teeth.
St John Bosco also had a vision of hell and he saw a number of people he knew there. All of them remain nameless. And a few other Saints also have similar visions and those in hell remain nameless.
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filius_Immacula
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1058 The Church prays that no one should be lost : ‘Lord, let me never be parted from you.’ If it is true that no one can save himself, it is also true that God ‘desires all men to be saved’ (1 Tim 2:4), and that for him ‘all things are possible’ (Mt 19:26).
• 1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
Once again the church holds out a reasonable hope for the salvation of all mankind.
private interpretations of scripture and private Revelation are irrelavant
• 1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
Once again the church holds out a reasonable hope for the salvation of all mankind.
private interpretations of scripture and private Revelation are irrelavant
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Cathoholic
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filius Immacula
You pointed out . . .
CCC 1058a The Church prays that no one should be lost . . .
The Church doesn’t pray that angels would be perpetually lost either, but when Origen taught this concept (Apokatastasis here), the Church later rebuked this false teaching when it got some traction.
You also quoted:
CCC 1821a We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him . . . .
But the people in eternal condemnation (or what we often call the “Hell of the damned”) are those who do NOT “love Him”. They all freely CHOOSE to be in Hell.
The CCC citations are correct. But that is a lot different conclusion than a universalism.
Remember the Church teaches that Judas for example, lost not only his body but also his soul!
ROMAN CATECHISM Furthermore, no one can deny that it is a virtue to be sorrowful at the time, in the manner, and to the extent which are required. To regulate sorrow in this manner belongs to the virtue of penance. Some conceive a sorrow which bears no proportion to their crimes. Nay, there are some, says Solomon, who are glad when they have done evil. Others, on the contrary, give themselves to such melancholy and grief, as utterly to abandon all hope of salvation. Such, perhaps, was the condition of Cain when he exclaimed: My iniquity is greater than that I may deserve pardon. Such certainly was the condition of Judas, who, repenting, hanged himself, and thus lost soul and body. Penance, therefore, considered as a virtue, assists us in restraining within the bounds of moderation our sense of sorrow.
I would be careful about minimizing the possibility of eternal condemnation (maybe you are not doing that and I am reading into what you are saying here. If that’s the case, sorry.).
Why be cautious about minimizing the possibility of eternal condemnation? Because it can be salutary for us to meditate on such a horror that’s why.
A meditation like this helps in “bridling the evil inclinations of the heart and in withdrawing men from sin”.
As Dr. Scott Hahn once quipped (I am paraphrasing):
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“Meditating on the concept of Hell scares the” . . . H. E. . . . double toothpicks . . . "out of us” (only Dr. Hahn didn’t say, “H-E-double-toothpicks”).
The Roman Catechism says essentially the same thing . . .
ROMAN CATECHISM These are thoughts which the pastor should very often bring to the attention of his people; for the truth which is contained in this Article will, **if accepted with faithful dispositions, be most powerful in bridling the evil inclinations of the heart and in withdrawing men from sin. **Hence we read in Ecclesiasticus: In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin.’ And indeed there is scarcely anyone so given over to vice as not to be recalled to virtue by the thought that he must one day render an account before an all-just Judge, not only of all his words and actions, but even of his most secret thoughts, and must suffer punishment according to his deserts.
God bless.
Cathoholic
ROMAN CATECHISM From Article VII
The Sentence Of The Wicked
Turning next to those who shall stand on His left, He will pour out His justice upon them in these words: Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
The first words, depart from me, express the heaviest punishment with which the wicked shall be visited, their eternal banishment from the sight of God, unrelieved by one consolatory hope of ever recovering so great a good. This punishment is called by theologians the pain of loss, because in hell the wicked shall be deprived forever of the light of the vision of God.
The words ye cursed, which follow, increase unutterably their wretched and calamitous condition. If when banished from the divine presence they were deemed worthy to receive some benediction, this would be to them a great source of consolation. But since they can expect nothing of this kind as an alleviation of their misery, the divine justice deservedly pursues them with every species of malediction, once they have been banished.
The next words, into everlasting fire, express another sort of punishment, which is called by theologians the pain of sense, because, like lashes, stripes or other more severe chastisements, among which fire, no doubt, produces the most intense pain, it is felt through the organs of sense. When, moreover, we reflect that this torment is to be eternal, we can see at once that the punishment of the damned includes every kind of suffering.
The concluding words, which was prepared for the devil and his angels, make this still more clear. For since nature has so provided that we feel miseries less when we have companions and sharers in them who can, at least in some measure, assist us by their advice and kindness, what must be the horrible state of the damned who in such calamities can never separate themselves from the companionship of most wicked demons ? And yet most justly shall this very sentence be pronounced by our Lord and Saviour on those sinners who neglected all the works of true mercy, who gave neither food to the hungry, nor drink to the thirsty, who refused shelter to the stranger and clothing to the naked, and who would not visit the sick and the imprisoned.
You pointed out . . .
CCC 1058a The Church prays that no one should be lost . . .
The Church doesn’t pray that angels would be perpetually lost either, but when Origen taught this concept (Apokatastasis here), the Church later rebuked this false teaching when it got some traction.
You also quoted:
CCC 1821a We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him . . . .
But the people in eternal condemnation (or what we often call the “Hell of the damned”) are those who do NOT “love Him”. They all freely CHOOSE to be in Hell.
The CCC citations are correct. But that is a lot different conclusion than a universalism.
Remember the Church teaches that Judas for example, lost not only his body but also his soul!
ROMAN CATECHISM Furthermore, no one can deny that it is a virtue to be sorrowful at the time, in the manner, and to the extent which are required. To regulate sorrow in this manner belongs to the virtue of penance. Some conceive a sorrow which bears no proportion to their crimes. Nay, there are some, says Solomon, who are glad when they have done evil. Others, on the contrary, give themselves to such melancholy and grief, as utterly to abandon all hope of salvation. Such, perhaps, was the condition of Cain when he exclaimed: My iniquity is greater than that I may deserve pardon. Such certainly was the condition of Judas, who, repenting, hanged himself, and thus lost soul and body. Penance, therefore, considered as a virtue, assists us in restraining within the bounds of moderation our sense of sorrow.
I would be careful about minimizing the possibility of eternal condemnation (maybe you are not doing that and I am reading into what you are saying here. If that’s the case, sorry.).
Why be cautious about minimizing the possibility of eternal condemnation? Because it can be salutary for us to meditate on such a horror that’s why.
A meditation like this helps in “bridling the evil inclinations of the heart and in withdrawing men from sin”.
As Dr. Scott Hahn once quipped (I am paraphrasing):
QUOTE:
“Meditating on the concept of Hell scares the” . . . H. E. . . . double toothpicks . . . "out of us” (only Dr. Hahn didn’t say, “H-E-double-toothpicks”).
The Roman Catechism says essentially the same thing . . .
ROMAN CATECHISM These are thoughts which the pastor should very often bring to the attention of his people; for the truth which is contained in this Article will, **if accepted with faithful dispositions, be most powerful in bridling the evil inclinations of the heart and in withdrawing men from sin. **Hence we read in Ecclesiasticus: In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin.’ And indeed there is scarcely anyone so given over to vice as not to be recalled to virtue by the thought that he must one day render an account before an all-just Judge, not only of all his words and actions, but even of his most secret thoughts, and must suffer punishment according to his deserts.
God bless.
Cathoholic
ROMAN CATECHISM From Article VII
The Sentence Of The Wicked
Turning next to those who shall stand on His left, He will pour out His justice upon them in these words: Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
The first words, depart from me, express the heaviest punishment with which the wicked shall be visited, their eternal banishment from the sight of God, unrelieved by one consolatory hope of ever recovering so great a good. This punishment is called by theologians the pain of loss, because in hell the wicked shall be deprived forever of the light of the vision of God.
The words ye cursed, which follow, increase unutterably their wretched and calamitous condition. If when banished from the divine presence they were deemed worthy to receive some benediction, this would be to them a great source of consolation. But since they can expect nothing of this kind as an alleviation of their misery, the divine justice deservedly pursues them with every species of malediction, once they have been banished.
The next words, into everlasting fire, express another sort of punishment, which is called by theologians the pain of sense, because, like lashes, stripes or other more severe chastisements, among which fire, no doubt, produces the most intense pain, it is felt through the organs of sense. When, moreover, we reflect that this torment is to be eternal, we can see at once that the punishment of the damned includes every kind of suffering.
The concluding words, which was prepared for the devil and his angels, make this still more clear. For since nature has so provided that we feel miseries less when we have companions and sharers in them who can, at least in some measure, assist us by their advice and kindness, what must be the horrible state of the damned who in such calamities can never separate themselves from the companionship of most wicked demons ? And yet most justly shall this very sentence be pronounced by our Lord and Saviour on those sinners who neglected all the works of true mercy, who gave neither food to the hungry, nor drink to the thirsty, who refused shelter to the stranger and clothing to the naked, and who would not visit the sick and the imprisoned.
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agnes_therese
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The Church doesn’t say that any specific person is in hell. That’s obviously not the same thing as saying no one goes to hell.actually it isn’t just specific people but, people period. the church has never said anyone has or will go to hell
The Church leaves that judgement to God. As we all should.
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Memaw
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Fatima has been approved to be “Worthy of Belief” by the Church and every Pope since it occurred has had a special devotion to Fatima, Several have been there. Saint Pope John Paul II spoke and wrote of it often. Pope Francis is going there in 2017 for the 100th Anniversary. The International organization, “World Apostolate of Fatima, Blue Army”, is under the direction of the Vatican. And we can get authentic information from them. A lot of our Holy Catholic devotions are not “bound by the Church.” Devotion to the Sacred heart for example, Litanies, Novenas, Sacramentals, etc. But that doesn’t mean they aren’t important and we should brush them aside as “not bound by the Church”. If God sends Our Lady to tell us something, and it has been approved by the Church, I think we would be very foolish not to pay close attention to what She said. That may be why our world is in such trouble now because to many didn’t pay attention. Our Lady did show them a vision of Hell and that should scare the Hell out of all of us!!! God Bless, MemawFatima is still private revelation and not bound by the Church. We are free to believe or not believe in approved private revelation, but that does not mean it is part of the doctrine of the Church.
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TheSurvivor
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The Church has never said that. Saint Thomas Aquinas certainly did not think all would be saved, he believed most would be damned.Once again the church holds out a reasonable hope for the salvation of all mankind.
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Memaw
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I would agree with you on private interpretation, but I sure wouldn’t throw " approved Private Revelation in there with it. We have to many beautiful devotions based on Approved Private Revelations to do that. Divine Mercy, Devotion to the Sacred Heart, Lourdes, Fatima, Guadalupe, etc.1058 The Church prays that no one should be lost : ‘Lord, let me never be parted from you.’ If it is true that no one can save himself, it is also true that God ‘desires all men to be saved’ (1 Tim 2:4), and that for him ‘all things are possible’ (Mt 19:26).
• 1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
Once again the church holds out a reasonable hope for the salvation of all mankind.
private interpretations of scripture and private Revelation are irrelavant
Of course we pray that no one should be lost. we sure don’t want to pray that some are!!! But that doesn’t take away the free will of those that put themselves in that danger. Only God Knows and the Church never will say “how many” if any, are lost. And so we HOPE, a Divine Virtue. God Bless, memaw
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filius_Immacula
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he also denied the immaculate conception, massa damnata is not a dogma either.The Church has never said that. Saint Thomas Aquinas certainly did not think all would be saved, he believed most would be damned.
, but when Origen taught this concept (Apokatastasis here), the Church later rebuked this false teaching when it got some traction.
im not arguing for the apocatastisis heresy, but of the reasonable ope of salvation for all and no, the church as never said anyone, includin judas,is in hell, you are putting personal views on the church
The following is taken from the constitution Gaudium et Spes (1:45, 2:57).
• While helping the world and receiving many benefits from it, the Church has a single intention: that God’s kingdom may come, and that the salvation of the whole human race may come to pass . For every benefit which the People of God during its earthly pilgrimage can offer to the human family stems from the fact that the Church is ‘the universal sacrament of salvation’ simultaneously manifesting and actualising the mystery of God’s love.
For God’s Word, by whom all things were made, was Himself made flesh so that as perfect man He might save all men and sum up all things in Himself . The Lord is the goal of human history, the focal point of the longings of history and of civilization, the center of the human race, the joy of every heart and the answer to all its yearnings. He it is Whom the Father raised from the dead, lifted on high and stationed at His right hand, making Him judge of the living and the dead. Enlivened and united in His Spirit, we journey toward the consummation of human history, one which fully accords with the counsel of God’s love: “To reestablish all things in Christ, both those in the heavens and those on the earth” (Eph. 1:10).
… Moreover, by the impulse of grace, he is disposed to acknowledge the Word of God, Who before He became flesh in order to save all and to sum up all in Himself was already “in the world” as “the true light which enlightens every man” (John 1:9-10).
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TheSurvivor
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All I see is “private interpretation” of Gaudium et Spes. The Church does not teach “there is a reasonable hope all men will be saved.”he also denied the immaculate conception, massa damnata is not a dogma either.
, but when Origen taught this concept (Apokatastasis here), the Church later rebuked this false teaching when it got some traction.
im not arguing for the apocatastisis heresy, but of the reasonable ope of salvation for all and no, the church as never said anyone, includin judas,is in hell, you are putting personal views on the church
The following is taken from the constitution Gaudium et Spes (1:45, 2:57).
• While helping the world and receiving many benefits from it, the Church has a single intention: that God’s kingdom may come, and that the salvation of the whole human race may come to pass . For every benefit which the People of God during its earthly pilgrimage can offer to the human family stems from the fact that the Church is ‘the universal sacrament of salvation’ simultaneously manifesting and actualising the mystery of God’s love.
For God’s Word, by whom all things were made, was Himself made flesh so that as perfect man He might save all men and sum up all things in Himself . The Lord is the goal of human history, the focal point of the longings of history and of civilization, the center of the human race, the joy of every heart and the answer to all its yearnings. He it is Whom the Father raised from the dead, lifted on high and stationed at His right hand, making Him judge of the living and the dead. Enlivened and united in His Spirit, we journey toward the consummation of human history, one which fully accords with the counsel of God’s love: “To reestablish all things in Christ, both those in the heavens and those on the earth” (Eph. 1:10).
… Moreover, by the impulse of grace, he is disposed to acknowledge the Word of God, Who before He became flesh in order to save all and to sum up all in Himself was already “in the world” as “the true light which enlightens every man” (John 1:9-10).
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Prayer_Warrior
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It says the hope is for those who love Him and do His will.1058 The Church prays that no one should be lost : ‘Lord, let me never be parted from you.’ If it is true that no one can save himself, it is also true that God ‘desires all men to be saved’ (1 Tim 2:4), and that for him ‘all things are possible’ (Mt 19:26).
• 1821 We can therefore hope in the glory of heaven promised by God to those who love him and do his will. In every circumstance, each one of us should hope, with the grace of God, to persevere ‘to the end’ and to obtain the joy of heaven, as God’s eternal reward for the good works accomplished with the grace of Christ. In hope, the Church prays for ‘all men to be saved.’
Once again the church holds out a reasonable hope for the salvation of all mankind.
private interpretations of scripture and private Revelation are irrelavant
Of course just like Scripture, we can’t take paragraphs of the Catechism and take them out of context. But in the end, most of us are interpreting what we see in Church teaching according to our particular lens. I do agree that Christ’s Sacrifice was for all mankind, but I do not believe all mankind will accept the grace merited by Jesus. The Scriptures say many enter the gate to destruction.
1861 Mortal sin is a radical possibility of human freedom, as is love itself. It results in the loss of charity and the privation of sanctifying grace, that is, of the state of grace. If it is not redeemed by repentance and God’s forgiveness, it causes exclusion from Christ’s kingdom and the eternal death of hell, for our freedom has the power to make choices for ever, with no turning back. However, although we can judge that an act is in itself a grave offense, we must entrust judgment of persons to the justice and mercy of God.
1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, “eternal fire.” The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death Rev 21:8
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