Feast of Guadalupe: For Mexicans Only?

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Sorry but Im very concerned over this one and have been for years. For instance, I went to mass at a parish I don’t usually go to this Sunday. No mention of the upcoming (tomarrow) celebrations for Our Lady of Guadalupe at all. However, the spanish side of the bulletin had an announcement which was absent on the English side. An insert entitled Program de Actividades Para la Celebracion de Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe 12 de Diciembre, 2011 which spanned 5 days of celebrations was in spanish only. At my home parish things were a little more reserved in the bulletin because presumably the English speakers of all races have been a bit more vocal. For instance, the mexican flag was removed from an OLG shrine because it was brought to the Bishop that the apparition predated Mexico among other things. However in the previous weeks bulletin in spanish only a Novena Guadalupana, Del 01 al 12 de Diciembre, Fiesta de San Juan Diego 09 de Dic and Fiesta de Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe 10 de Dic a las 10:00 p.m. a las 5:00 a.m with something at 11:00 am and mass at 12:10 and 1:45 I think. We never hear about OLG as the Patroness of the Americas.
 
Sorry but Im very concerned over this one and have been for years. For instance, I went to mass at a parish I don’t usually go to this Sunday. No mention of the upcoming (tomarrow) celebrations for Our Lady of Guadalupe at all. However, the spanish side of the bulletin had an announcement which was absent on the English side. An insert entitled Program de Actividades Para la Celebracion de Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe 12 de Diciembre, 2011 which spanned 5 days of celebrations was in spanish only. At my home parish things were a little more reserved in the bulletin because presumably the English speakers of all races have been a bit more vocal. For instance, the mexican flag was removed from an OLG shrine because it was brought to the Bishop that the apparition predated Mexico among other things. However in the previous weeks bulletin in spanish only a Novena Guadalupana, Del 01 al 12 de Diciembre, Fiesta de San Juan Diego 09 de Dic and Fiesta de Nuestra Senora de Guadalupe 10 de Dic a las 10:00 p.m. a las 5:00 a.m with something at 11:00 am and mass at 12:10 and 1:45 I think. We never hear about OLG as the Patroness of the Americas.
While OLG is the patroness of the Americas as a whole, we need to remember something about her specialness to Mexicans.

Before OLG’s appearance, most of the Indians and many of the mixed-bloods, were still pagan, and believed in the old gods and legends. There was an Aztec legend that a sort of god-demon named Quetzalcoatl would come some day from the sea and kill them all. Supposedly Quetzalcoatl had a white face, and it wasn’t hard for many Aztecs to think Cortez was, indeed, Quetzalcoatl. Even though the Spaniards were demonstrably human, the notion of Quetzalcoatl and the doom he would bring did not die. Many or most of the natives and mixed people still believed in it. One of Cortez’ soldiers had smallpox, a disease to which few of the natives had any immunity, and it (and other European diseases) literally killed millions, and so it really did seem they were doomed to die, as per the legend of Quetzalcoatl. Since the Spanish weren’t Aztecs, they were not doomed.

When Our Lady appeared in the garb and visage of an Aztec princess, it was astonishing to them that the Mother of God would appear as royalty of a supposedly doomed race. And she spoke to Juan Diego in Nahuatl, the Aztec language. There are some who maintain (and I believe it) that she did not really announce herself as “Our Lady of Guadalupe”, but “The lady coatlashupe”. “Coatalashupe” in Nahuatle means “Conquerer of Quetzalcoatl”. The Spanish had a Shrine in Spain to “Our Lady of Guadalupe”, and the clergy who heard the account from Juan Diego thought that’s what he told them She said.

That was, itself, a bombshell among the natives. It was the Mother of God telling them that, no, they were not doomed. They were not all to die; that she was the conquerer of the demon and would save them, not only from the fearsome and bloodthirsty Aztec gods, but from literally dying out as a people. Conversions literally exploded after that.

So, while She is, indeed, the patroness of all of us, there is a specialness of OLG to Mexicans that is not quite as personal to us. To them, She really is tied to them as a people in a very special way.

Personally, I take no offense in it.
 
Indeed, as many have already pointed out, Our Lady of Guadalupe has been designated by the Universal Catholic Church as Patroness of the Americas. So the answer is clearly NO!

May I offer a perhaps unique perspective?

I am an Eastern (Byzantine) Rite Catholic. Our Church has historical ties to Eastern Europe, and is often considered a mostly “ethnic” church even by fellow Catholics who know us well. We suffer from no loss of opportunity in our tradition to venerate Our Lady and commemorate her appearances to us. Our Lady’s appearances in Eastern Europe as frequently recalled in our tradition are fairly well known (e.g. Mariapocs, Czestochowa, etc.; Blessed John Paul II made well publicized pilgrimages to these holy sites). That said, we are Americans as well, and even though we commemorate many of Our Lady’s appearances already and follow a slightly different liturgical calendar than our Latin rite brothers and sisters, our Metropolitan Archbishop (of the Pittsburgh Ruthenian Metropolia) at the time added this feast to our calendar upon the OLG patronal declaration without hesitation.

In our daily worship, there is a place in our Divine Liturgy reserved for chanting a unique troparion, or hymn which expresses the day’s commemoration.

For your interest, I’ve typed the one written for the Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe below. Classic troparia (plural form) in our liturgical form are regarded as beautiful, poetic prayers in their own respect.

Blessings to all!

When you appeared in the New World, O Mother of God,
you fixed your image on Juan Diego’s rose-laden tilma.
All the poor, hungry, and oppressed seek you, Lady of Guadalupe.
We gaze upon your miraculous icon and find hope,
crying out to your Son concealed in your womb.
Hear our plea for justice, O most merciful Lord!
Such a beautiful prayer! Thank you so much for sharing it!
 
btw I am sure the Spanish speaking element of many parishes feel slighted and uninvited when English-language only events are scheduled and announced in the bulletin.
sigh I was afraid a comment like this would surface.
 
sigh I was afraid a comment like this would surface.
I agree Topaz 1128 how sad it is that this happens all the time doesn’t it?

Frankly puzzleannie if there was any mixing going on at all between the Spanish and the indiginous population in that area of the new world it was most probably a very infrequent occurance. And I’m sure that whatever the mixed population was at the time it had to be extremely small. Remember that only about11 years had passed between the conquest of the Aztec’s by Cortez and when Juan Diego saw the apparition of Our Lady of Guadelupe.

In any case it is just flat out wrong to try to justify spanish language only OLG celebrations for any reason exclusive of the English speaking Catholic community composed of all races and ethnic groups. Besides, I know a number of 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation people of Mexican heritage who don’t speak a word of spanish!
 
In any case it is just flat out wrong to try to justify spanish language only OLG celebrations for any reason exclusive of the English speaking Catholic community composed of all races and ethnic groups. Besides, I know a number of 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation people of Mexican heritage who don’t speak a word of spanish!
Whether the OLG celebrations should be bilingual is a question that each parish ought to decide. They certainly shouldn’t exclude any parishioners from the event, but if 90% of attendees at a parish event are Spanish-speakers, or English-speakers, or whatever, there is no reason the activities must be conducted in more than one language.

And if attendance is far and away dominated by Spanish-speakers, I don’t see a problem putting it only in the Spanish section of the bulletin. If the bulletin is exactly duplicated in English and Spanish, that’s one thing, but there are usually items that appear in only one or the other. If someone is comfortable enough attending a parish event in Spanish, they’ll probably know enough Spanish to poke through the key words in the Spanish section of the bulletin. Same with the English.

Certainly it’s fine for a parish to choose to print everything in both languages, and conduct all events bilingually, but I don’t think we should hold it against them if they don’t make that choice.
 
I Frankly puzzleannie if there was any mixing going on at all between the Spanish and the indiginous population in that area of the new world it was most probably a very infrequent occurance. !
which has absolutely nothing to do with my comment, or OP’s topic, which is why an event possible of interest to all parishioners, is announced or promoted only to the Spanish-speaking group.
 
He wasn’t even spanish…he was a native american!!!

He’s pretty much the Kateri Teckawath of Mexico…but no one thinks of her as the saint for the french people.
 
btw I am sure the Spanish speaking element of many parishes feel slighted and uninvited when English-language only events are scheduled and announced in the bulletin.
OK, Puzzleannie, I’ll bite. 🙂

Um, maybe the Spanish-speaking element can gasp learn some English and make an effort to mingle? I’m learning Spanish and making efforts to attend Spanish Mass from time to time… here in the U.S.! 🤷
 
The Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe is for ALL Catholics, not just Mexicans.

By that logic, then:

Our Lady of Lourdes, Our Lady of Pontmain, Our Lady of La Salette and Our Lady of Laus is only for the French to visit. Our Lady of Fátima is only for the Portuguese to visit. Our Lady of Beauraing and Our Lady of Banneux is only for the Belgians to visit…

I can understand how a Catholic Mexican can feel a sense of pride on the wonderful Feast of Our Lady of Guadalupe, but this feast day is a beautiful celebration for all Catholics.
 
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