Fellowship of Christian Athletes

[dwhtxsports]

I really believe that I have a call to help start an FCA group at our local high school and be the huddle leader/sponsor. I am a coach and believe that this is a much needed ministry at our school. I do have some reservations however. FCA is an inter-denominational organization. I was a member when I was in high school over 20 years ago. As I was researching how to start a huddle, I read one of the FCA’s Statement of Faith. It states “We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)” Now I know and believe that this is not correct. What is some of your thoughts on this. Thanks for any and all help.

 

[kage_ar]

catholicathletesforchrist.com/articles/112107a.htm

 

[someotherguy]

I read one of the FCA’s Statement of Faith. It states “We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)” Now I know and believe that this is not correct. What is some of your thoughts on this. Thanks for any and all help.

Why on Earth would somebody claiming to be a Christian not believe this? And, if you don’t believe this, then what are you basing your claim to Christianity on?

 

[dwhtxsports]

Why on Earth would somebody claiming to be a Christian not believe this? And, if you don’t believe this, then what are you basing your claim to Christianity on?

Well, for an easy answer, because it is not biblical. Nowhere in 2 Timoth or anywhere else in the Bible for that matter does it state that the Bible is the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. Did I state that the Bible is not the infalliable, inspired Word of God. Absolutely not. I do believe it is. However I do not believe that it is the ONLY infalliable Word of God.

 

[someotherguy]

Well, for an easy answer, because it is not biblical.

See 2 Tim 3:15-17.

Did I state that the Bible is not the infalliable, inspired Word of God. Absolutely not. I do believe it is. However I do not believe that it is the ONLY infalliable Word of God.

First of all, the Bible isn’t infallible, it is inerrant. There’s a big difference.

Second, what is the other word of God?

 

[ibkc]

Second, what is the other word of God?

Sacred Tradition, for starters. Now, do you have any helpful suggestions for the Evangelization forum on how to spread the news that the Catholic Church (not the “Roman” Catholic Church) is the true church, founded by Christ himself?

 

[someotherguy]

Sacred Tradition, for starters.

Which verse is that?

Now, do you have any helpful suggestions for the Evangelization forum on how to spread the news that the Catholic Church (not the “Roman” Catholic Church) is the true church, founded by Christ himself?

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought this was about evangelism as described in scripture.

 

[ibkc]

Which verse is that?

:whacky: Jesus is The Word. The Word cannot be limited to the pages of a book.

Oh, I’m sorry. I thought this was about evangelism as described in scripture.

Exactly. Evangelism into Christ’s mystical Body: the One, Holy Catholic Church. I am delighted to see that you are on the same page.

 

[someotherguy]

:whacky: Jesus is The Word. The Word cannot be limited to the pages of a book.

In other words, the Bible doesn’t support your claim.

Exactly. Evangelism into Christ’s mystical Body: the One, Holy Catholic Church. I am delighted to see that you are on the same page.

I don’t think we are. I’m talking about evangelism as described in the Bible. You’re talking about evangelism according to Roman Catholicism.

 

[dwhtxsports]

In other words, the Bible doesn’t support your claim.

I don’t think we are. I’m talking about evangelism as described in the Bible. You’re talking about evangelism according to Roman Catholicism.

Actually the Bible does support the claim. St. Paul did command us to follow their traditions both by word of mouth and written.

However we are way off track here. Perhaps I did not explain my question properly. I am asking fellow Catholics their opinion on leading an FCA group in particular if there is someone on here that has led one in the past. Thanks for your concern on my status as a Christian though. God bless you.

 

[Lui]

As I was researching how to start a huddle, I read one of the FCA’s Statement of Faith. It states “We believe the Bible to be the inspired, the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)” Now I know and believe that this is not correct. What is some of your thoughts on this. Thanks for any and all help.

Hm, from which Bible is this? The word Bible doesn’t show up once in the Bible

2 Timothy 3: 16-17:
" All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness,
so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work."

 

[rpp]

Well, for an easy answer, because it is not biblical. Nowhere in 2 Timoth or anywhere else in the Bible for that matter does it state that the Bible is the only infallible, authoritative Word of God. Did I state that the Bible is not the infalliable, inspired Word of God. Absolutely not. I do believe it is. However I do not believe that it is the ONLY infalliable Word of God.

Umm… Not to burst your bubble, but the Catholic Church *does *teach the Bible is the only infallible word of God.

The difference is that the Church also teaches that we are also to follow Sacred Tradition.

Sacred Tradition is not the word of God.

 

[Lui]

catholicathletesforchrist.com/articles/112107a.htm

Nice article.
Reading that article made me think that I always felt that me doing sports was something that came from God. Many good things in my life were linked to sports while many bad things were linked to not doing sports. I’m a swimmer(I also do cycling) which is very meditative. Swimming is good for your body and soul. I often pray while swimming.
It’s not that I consciously think it comes from God but more unconsciously. Maybe because I feel that as a Christian it’s also my duty to keep my body just as pure as my soul so keeping in shape and eating clean should be something a Catholic should also do.

 

[dwhtxsports]

Umm… Not to burst your bubble, but the Catholic Church *does *teach the Bible is the only infallible word of God.

The difference is that the Church also teaches that we are also to follow Sacred Tradition.

Sacred Tradition is not the word of God.

Why would it burst my bubble. I cam on this site to humbly ask a question. I always believe that the Wod og God is BOTH Scripture and Sacred Tradition. If I am wrong about this, please show me so that I can be at ease. That is exactly what I am looking for.

 

[rpp]

Why would it burst my bubble. I cam on this site to humbly ask a question. I always believe that the Wod og God is BOTH Scripture and Sacred Tradition. If I am wrong about this, please show me so that I can be at ease. That is exactly what I am looking for.

The actual Word of God, His commandments, examples, teachings, etc., are found in the Bible. It is the primary (but not sole) source of our doctrines, morals and dogma. However, we sometimes, because of the march of time , evolution of language and cultural development, can lose some of the context in which the Bible was written.

Sacred Tradition guides the practice and exterior expressions of our worship. By adding cultural context and providing additional material from uninspired but important writings, such as those by the early Church fathers, Sacred Tradition helps us to better understand the Word of God and helps to guide the development of theology and morality. Thus Sacred Tradition helps guide how we apply the ancient and unchanging Teachings of the Church to the modern world.